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It's hard work getting a decent band together. I've had 3 drummers & 4 singers so far in the current band. Starting to write our own stuff, but man, it moves slow. Despite me already having a good number of completed songs, getting them to learn & play can take some effort. But we're getting there. The first couple of singers just wanted to do covers of pop rock, even though I advertised for Acid Jazz/breakbeat.

That's a musician that's wrote that, not a guitarist. There is probably too many people whom claim to be guitarists who just strum chords & don't actually think about what they can play to make the song.

I was just thinking "where's this mumph's mix comp", opened BC & the first post I saw was Milty's here.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1384252390' post='2274386'] The extra speaker will ensure that any 2 x 112 rig will sound better than a 1 x 112 rig. My 2p is that, with modern speaker design 2 good 112 cabs (or equivalent 212) paired up with a good 500 watt amp are the perfect semi pro bass rig. [/quote] I get the 2x12 as there's a good mass coverage, but why a 500w amp?

Ah, I see what you mean. Makes sense.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1384136580' post='2273187'] Rule # 1 of loudspeaker design: There's no such thing as a free lunch. What you gain with respect to voltage sensitivity with a lower impedance load comes at the expense of increased current draw. To preserve a balance between voltage and current headroom you should avoid running an amp into its minimum rated impedance load. [/quote] What effect does increased current draw have?

Sounds like you have a short. Try a different cable from the tuner out to the tuner.

Have a wee read at my thread where I was asking if 4 ohms sounds different to 8 & then consider if there's any point limiting yourself to 4 ohm cabs. The difference in volume between 300 & 500 watts is very little.

Cheers guys. I wasn't looking to change to a 4 ohm cab, but curious from someone's comments on another website about how amps are designed to sound better with a 4 ohm load, so where better to ask.

+1 for the Markbass combos. I've got the 2x10 & couldn't be happier with it. Light, loud & sounds great. I'd certainly be looking at the Genz Benz deals though.

Not the models that you're looking at, but I tried 4 fretless Fender Jazz basses. The MiM was poor in both build & sound. The Squire was far better & just needed a decent set of flatwounds to blow the Mex away. Both MiA basses were verrry nice though. I think with Fender, you have to try the one you're buying to make sure it's not a crapper.

Hope it's out here for January (my birthday).

Playing about is 1/2 the fun of having fx. Put the muff in different places & see what you like best. There's no "right" order.

He's not alone! A couple of years ago in Falkirk I got the same thing in every music shop as an excuse as to why they don't stock em.

The Markbass combos weigh in @ the same as a MB head & cab of the same. If I was in the market just now, I'd be snapping up one of the current GB deals & probably a Barefaced cab.

That's not what I meant. I know that an amp that runs 500w at 4 ohm is about 350w at 8 ohm. The difference in volume is near enough sod all. Say I had a 2x10 8 ohm cab & an identical 2x10 4 ohm cab. If I used one at a time, would it affect the power stage enough to make the amp sound different?

Someone said that their bass amp sounds better through a single 4 ohm 4x10 than it does through an 8 ohm of the same cab. Does running an amp at it's maximum ohms affect the sound that it produces? I've never noticed any difference when I've tried it.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1383651701' post='2266963'] [size=4]It makes me laugh when people have their car stereos way too loud. Their attitude is, 'check out what I'm into, isn't it great?'[/size] [size=4]But it's never Mozart, is it?? [/size] [/quote] Mozart? Pah!!! Everyone knows that the classical bassist was Bach! I have neighbours up & down from me. I play in the day & get no complaints. I don't play in the evening unless arranging it with them. The first thing I did when I moved here was to say hello to the neighbours & when the upstairs family moved in, I took a cake up & welcomed them. Downstairs have complained a couple of times in the past, but only because it was 9:30pm & the whole band was playing (happened more than once too, but I did let him know & to tell me if it got too late). Talk to your neebs. Apologise for the noise & empathise with them. They may well return the empathy & you could arrange to play during the day.

Driver diameter makes no difference to the sound. A 2x12 has a good surface covering (the potential to move a good amount of air) & has good dispersion (unless you lay it vertically).

[quote name='brensabre79' timestamp='1383326474' post='2263278'] Simple Answer... Your Cab should be OK with any amp that will output less than 600 Watts at 8 Ohms. OK As in it won't catch fire or damage the speakers even at full volume. BUT... If you crank the Low Frequencies up high enough, you can still do damage. [/quote] It should also be ok with an amp that outputs more than 600 watts at 8 ohm as long as you use your ears. Though whereas you say it should be ok at full volume in theory, in reality an amp rated with a much lower wattage could damage the speakers.

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1383305165' post='2262842'] All EBS amps will run at 8 Ohm. You won't get the full beans out of them at 8Ohm though. Fafner, TD and HD want 2 Ohm to deliver their full load, the others want 4. [/quote] I didn't know that. Cheers.

Try the amps through the cab & get whichever you like the sound of most. Ignore the watts, it means little in respect of what you're looking at. You've got an 8Ω cab, most amps will run at 8Ω (Some EBS & some valve amps won't run at 8Ω). There's a lot of good lightweight amps out there from the likes of Markbass, TC Electronic, Genz Benz & also from Ampeg & GK. The 2nd hand section on this forum is a great place to get an amp & if you don't like it, you can sell it for very little loss & try another.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1383300173' post='2262723'] I owned the RH450 for a few years, then upgraded to the 750 and I still own it. Here are a few myth busters on this amp: - 1. The RH450 is louder than a Markbass 500W amp. You can CRANK the gain and master and it will not, repeat not, clip. The Markbass amps will simply clip and sound horrible once you push them past a certain point. At 1 o'clock on the master on a Markbass LM3, you are reaching its max volume. I'm also tempted to say it was louder than the Genz Shuttle 9.0 I tried. - 2. There is an inbuilt HPF and LPF on the RH450. This means it will sound quite a lot like a modern version of an Ampeg SVT through a sealed 8x10. Eg, lots of low mid push, great for the mix. The RH450 does have slightly muted treble, but thats the sound of that amp. This was then changed in the RH750, which still has the HPF, but the treble is much more extended to sparkly and bright, and you can adjust it properly. As BOTH amps have a HPF, the bass is basically not as extended as some amps. Genz do a very similar thing. - 3. They both have the relevant poweramp module, but the module is essentially 'limited'. This is difficult to explain. The TC website has a document on this. TC have a history of innovation, (Toneprint, Polytune) so to them, this is their interpretation of a warm 'tube like' clear bass amp, with everything you need in one package. - 4. The 'featues' work properly. The tuner is great, the EQ is great, the presets are great, the form factor is great. The tone is fabulous, and the volume on both amps is nothing to ever worry about. At all. - 5. The tone is basically a fairly warm/clear take on a vintage tone. The RH750 will get you into modern territory with the treble. TC wanted an amp that emulates a big tube amp pushed, and this will do that....it has the compression of the tube amp being pushed built into the sound. I've played a lot of the modern amps, and a fair few full tube amps, and this one does it very well. It isn't for everyone, but then again what is? For example, the Aguilar TH500 has much more bass, very similar thick chewy mids, and again, muted highs, but you cannot dial those highs in on the TH500...whereas you can on the RH750. To finish on the volume/wattage, the amusing thing is, when the RH450 came out, everyone raved and said they thought it sounded and pushed better than their Markbass 500W amps or Genz 600W amps. This went on for some years. Then the amp got reviewed and TC's 'Bass Gear Mag rated wattage' came out, and everyone suddenly believed it would be a quiet amp. This is in essence advice saying use your ears. It is loud, but tone is subjective. [/quote] Could I ask a question. You say in point 2 that the amp sounds "quite a lot like a modern version of an Ampeg SVT through a sealed 8x10". Is that when you're putting the TC amp through a sealed 8x10 or a ported 8x10 (or something else)? I'm not knocking the TC amps, as I've never owned one. I've heard mixed things about how they sound, with some folk loving them & other's not. Most users say that they're plenty loud enough too & they do look pretty cool with plenty of features.

[quote name='RandomBass' timestamp='1383294352' post='2262598'] Eh? I don't get that at all. When did they increase the wattage? [/quote] It's that filter. They got another 4 watts out of it!

Try it out. See if they'll let you try it for a gig/rehearsal. I think the high pass filter might help get the most from the 240 watts.