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I've been getting a band together & I can confirm that 2 guitards are good for metal or rock , but try getting them to play something else & it just ends up a frikkin racket. When I started, I didn't want any guitarists. I wanted vocalist, a drummer, 1 or 2 keys & some other musicians. I've decided to go with it & then once we get gigging, try & find some decent musicians.

I'd never have thought I'd hear anyone say Markbass sounds "soft & flabby", though I suppose it depends on the bass & how the amp is set. If the filters are both fully on, then I suppose it might get you there as the VLE will take away all the treble & the VPF will kill the mids & boost the bass (giving you that Ashdown sound). eParrot, I'd try as many combos out as you can, there's quite a few local bassists with good portable rigs & combos. Whereas I love the Markbass sound, it's not for everyone.

I might try putting plastic on the saddles & string holes on my bridge where the string makes contact & see if there is any difference in sound. I know there wasn't between the high mass Ibby bridge & the Vox bridge that I now use (similar to Fender's bent metal thingy).

[quote name='eParrot' timestamp='1377873477' post='2193100'] Thanks guys. Very worthwhile exercise and I'm glad I've posted here. I'll be looking out for that 'filter' button tomorrow on the ashdown and I'm starting to seriously consider going MB all the way. I had this purist idea that I needed a 15' cab. But I totally agree with your remark. That guy (who's a lovely player) sat in the mix so well with his p and MB rig. It was clear, pure, articulate, defined, lyrical, nothing was ever lost in mud. I totally agree one has to try but you can never really tell until the night, and even then every house is a new jungle. So I need something versatile to cover quite a few bases (no pun intended) So I'm talking myself into a MB head (gee, which one?) and a nice 2x10 cab. With a grand plan to own a second 4x10 cab which I can use on its own or combined with the 2x10 if I ever need that kind of headroom. This is running into serious money though :-/ [/quote] If you're going Markbass, adding a 2nd 2x10 would be more than ample as they're extremely loud cabs (especially if stacked vertically). I sometimes plug the SWR 4x10 that's in the rehearsal room & struggle to hear any difference in sound or volume. I unplugged the combo to make sure it was on & there it was, just a good bit quieter.

All the combos use the same head, it's the LMII/III. I went with the 2x10 combo & it's more than enough for my needs, sounds awesome too. There's a few on here with the 1x12 combo & say it's plenty loud enough too. Like discreet say's, try them. Get yourself to a shop & try things too (Kenny's music in Jamaica St stocks Markbass, they might have Ampeg).

I don't, though I used to have 2 Marshall cabs with a peavey amp (but it's probably nowt like your rig ).

Tighten up the machineheads. Mine have a screw in the top for this. I had one string going out of tune occasionally, tightened the head up & haven't had to touch it since.

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1377814388' post='2192412'] My fretted single cut, is basically a Jazz body with the top horn filled in. [/quote] That is rather nice. Now, ifit was fretless & I had funds, I'd buy that!

Try rolling the bass off on the amp & increase the mid & treble if needed. Change your strings for rounds (or brighter flats such as D'Addario Chromes) if you need to.

It is an "either/or" connection, just make sure that the ohms don't exceed what your amp can handle.

I think they're like any instrument. Some are nice, some are superfugly. The Fender Jazz may have been a beautiful instrument as a single cut as the top cyst like horn it has is a hideous thing IMV (the rest of the instrument I do like).

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1377773167' post='2191536'] Just buy the boss me 50 b which some lovely bloke has for sale Basic, uncomplicated and fun [/quote] Bassist that I saw playing for David Phelps had a Sadowski into a ME50b to a Super Redhaed combo & had an excellent sound.

Well the Chromes are very bright, maybe a little too much, but I have a turny thing on my bass that changes the brightness to not so bright. They sounded fine in band rehearsal last night. Just not as much low end as the Tomastiks (I have a turny thing on my amp that fixed this though).

I'd suggest getting a decent multi fx pedal. This way you can learn which effects do what & if at a later date you want stomp boxes, you'll have a good idea of what you're after. Multi fx aren't so good at dirt effects such as overdrive or fuzz, but they're getting better & you could always add a separate dirt box if needed. Here's a link to a member's page that explains almost everything about effects. Start at part 1. It's a good & informative read. http://sheponbass.co.uk/blog/?category=Signal+Chain+BASSics Oh, & welcome to the good side.

New Moon give PLI with instrument insurance. So if each member has an instrument insured, then they get PLI.

Yes, I'm generalising the metal genre, so what? I started this for fun & that's the way it should be looked at. I like metal in all it's forms (well, most forms) & I wouldn't class rock bands such as U2 or Stereophonics as metal hence me not using the term "Rock". I also like a lot of pop music, EDM, drum n bass, Jazz, funk, soul & classical. I like to keep an open mind with music. Is that Wiki definition the definitive definition? I don't know. Sounds about right, but is it really? I don't think there was many knocking the genre either. Some gave their opinion of what they like, but if everyone liked the same stuff, what a boring place this would be (though I think we'll all agree on Clodplay ).

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1377607361' post='2189300'] You should try putting a funk band together, its taken bloody years to find people! [/quote] Haha! That actually gives me hope!!! I'm trying to get a band that plays either breakbeat, acid jazz or funk. So far I've got 3 rock guitarists (one on drums), but the singer is funk/soul.

Is the fan working on it?

I got Chromes today. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/215335-replacement-flats/"]Here[/url].

I've just received my set of Chromes in the post. 1st thoughts - "Are these flats? They sound rather zingy". They do have a nice depth to them & Rolling the tone back soon makes them sound like proper strings. I suppose the brightness that they have should come in handy for a couple of tracks that have a little slap playing in them. I like them so far & the tension isn't much different from the TIs. I'll report back once I've tried them in the band.

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1377550900' post='2188819'] Interesting thread! I'd say yes, strictly speaking metal is pop music in that it's 'popular'. Very popular in fact. But it's not pop music in the way we tend to use the term pop - as in, meaning 'accessible' to a mass market / or 'daytime radio friendly'. Off topic: here's a great website listing the various genres of metal in the form of a map... [url="http://mapofmetal.com/"]http://mapofmetal.com/[/url] [/quote] Cool map. R1 & R2 do play a lot of stuff that's on that map. Last week I was rocking to some Motorhead on Radio 2! But I get what you mean as in what is classed as "pop". I think a song has to have a certain amount of "Cheesiness" to fall in todays "pop" category (& cheese isn't always a bad thing).

[quote name='Leen2112' timestamp='1377531523' post='2188529'] So does that make One erection a metal band?? [/quote] I thought Wand Erection was pornopop.

I ended up getting rid of my (borrowed) compressor.

I'd probably define Metal in the general sense as any music in the vein of Hard Rock, Grunge, Glam, NuMetal, Metalcore etc. So bands from Nirvana & Pearl Jam through to Slipknot & Wolfmother. Anything that has 2 or more guitars with a decent amount of dirt on them all. BTW, I do like most metal. It just seems like a very popular genre that's more popular than "Pop" (sub genres aside).

I was looking on Bandmix, Joinmyband & Gumtree for a keys player. I never found any, but just about everyone on there is playing Metal/Hard Rock of some sort, the majority are guitarists, a couple of drummers & vocalists. So it got me thinking, as "Pop music" is short for "Popular" music, is Metal the definitive Pop music?