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New Moon give PLI with instrument insurance. So if each member has an instrument insured, then they get PLI.

Yes, I'm generalising the metal genre, so what? I started this for fun & that's the way it should be looked at. I like metal in all it's forms (well, most forms) & I wouldn't class rock bands such as U2 or Stereophonics as metal hence me not using the term "Rock". I also like a lot of pop music, EDM, drum n bass, Jazz, funk, soul & classical. I like to keep an open mind with music. Is that Wiki definition the definitive definition? I don't know. Sounds about right, but is it really? I don't think there was many knocking the genre either. Some gave their opinion of what they like, but if everyone liked the same stuff, what a boring place this would be (though I think we'll all agree on Clodplay ).

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1377607361' post='2189300'] You should try putting a funk band together, its taken bloody years to find people! [/quote] Haha! That actually gives me hope!!! I'm trying to get a band that plays either breakbeat, acid jazz or funk. So far I've got 3 rock guitarists (one on drums), but the singer is funk/soul.

Is the fan working on it?

I got Chromes today. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/215335-replacement-flats/"]Here[/url].

I've just received my set of Chromes in the post. 1st thoughts - "Are these flats? They sound rather zingy". They do have a nice depth to them & Rolling the tone back soon makes them sound like proper strings. I suppose the brightness that they have should come in handy for a couple of tracks that have a little slap playing in them. I like them so far & the tension isn't much different from the TIs. I'll report back once I've tried them in the band.

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1377550900' post='2188819'] Interesting thread! I'd say yes, strictly speaking metal is pop music in that it's 'popular'. Very popular in fact. But it's not pop music in the way we tend to use the term pop - as in, meaning 'accessible' to a mass market / or 'daytime radio friendly'. Off topic: here's a great website listing the various genres of metal in the form of a map... [url="http://mapofmetal.com/"]http://mapofmetal.com/[/url] [/quote] Cool map. R1 & R2 do play a lot of stuff that's on that map. Last week I was rocking to some Motorhead on Radio 2! But I get what you mean as in what is classed as "pop". I think a song has to have a certain amount of "Cheesiness" to fall in todays "pop" category (& cheese isn't always a bad thing).

[quote name='Leen2112' timestamp='1377531523' post='2188529'] So does that make One erection a metal band?? [/quote] I thought Wand Erection was pornopop.

I ended up getting rid of my (borrowed) compressor.

I'd probably define Metal in the general sense as any music in the vein of Hard Rock, Grunge, Glam, NuMetal, Metalcore etc. So bands from Nirvana & Pearl Jam through to Slipknot & Wolfmother. Anything that has 2 or more guitars with a decent amount of dirt on them all. BTW, I do like most metal. It just seems like a very popular genre that's more popular than "Pop" (sub genres aside).

I was looking on Bandmix, Joinmyband & Gumtree for a keys player. I never found any, but just about everyone on there is playing Metal/Hard Rock of some sort, the majority are guitarists, a couple of drummers & vocalists. So it got me thinking, as "Pop music" is short for "Popular" music, is Metal the definitive Pop music?

Save your pennies & get a Moog MF-101.

[quote name='JXBase' timestamp='1377383362' post='2187026'] Great thread. Guess it depends how you play bass and what you are playing for. I'd only use effects at a very minimum to enhance a bass sound because essentially it plays the most basic important part in music that no other instrument really does, provide the low bass to fill the sound! That's what I love about the bass. The guitar is part of of many treble instruments that have a more noticeable range of tones for our ears so it makes sense to have more effects etc. I can see why you'd use a little effect, it can change the feel/sound in a subtle but important way, but you usually wouldn't want to do much more or it'll lose itself. I'm usually quite happy the way the bass sounds with tone adjustments on it's own. The only pedals I do use occasionally are compressors and short reverb. [/quote] Like you say, it depends on the music. Many traditional genres don't require effects on bass (country, folk, jazz, etc), but that doesn't mean they can't be incorporated to good use. Much of the other stuff like electronica, dubstep, breakbeat, funk & trip hop benefit greatly from effects & many couldn't be played how they are without any fx. I use quite a few effects in the majority of the songs I play.

1/2 the fun of getting pedals is playing about with their order until you find what works best for you. I'd also consider adding a dirt pedal of some sort. Having octave, dirt & filter is a good starting point to produce some great synth like sounds. Though having a synth pedal too could be rather useful. Important part..... Have fun!

I've ordered a set of Chromes. the winning factor being that I should have them for Wednesday & they are £29 including postage. I'll let you know what I think of them on Thursday.

Source Audio BEF (the BEF Pro is dearer)?

Unfortunately neither Strings Direct nor Stringbusters have single TI flats other than the low B & top C & I can't find anywhere else that sells them. What are the La Bella strings like? I need to get ordering them in time for Wednesday's sesh.

Well after just over 3 1/2 years of playing TI Jazz flats, I've just snapped the D string. Does anyone know where a single string can be bought? If not, I'm thinking a new set of strings may be in order. I really like the TIs, so if I replace them, what other flats should I consider? I'd like to retain the low end, but not have too thumpy a sound (like some folk have said about the La Bellas) & retain a good amount of top as I'm often up the dusty end. What are the D'Addario Chromes like? Do they have a decent low end depth to them?

You can get a Mac & run Parallels on it, thus having OSX & Windows at the same time (I have). I've had my iMac for 6 years now & had no issues with it other than it could do with a clearout. I've got a 2 1/2 year old HP laptop that's one step away from the bin. Whenever you're not using it, you have to sit it upside down to stop it from shutting itself down & it's running like a 3 legged tortoise (with no feet). Why is it PCs & Laptops do this? Every one I've had have required some stupid prop. Had a laptop which would only work if there was something propping up the left corner of it, a PC that would only run if it was raised at the front. The list goes on! Anyone else? The answer to your question though... It's up to you. Have a play about with different things & see what you like.

[quote name='indiegrungesound' timestamp='1377261317' post='2185464'] I was working on the principal-commonly mentioned on this site-that having more speakers of the same size gives you more of the sound you want in terms of tone & speaker response times. I take your point about the lack of power. This is certainly true if you just used the Laney combo on it's own(I'm sure it was mentioned above that this would only put out 175 watts or thereabouts @ 8 ohms.). However, having 300 watts @ 4 ohms ,through a 6x10" would surely be pretty of poke. [/quote] The idea behind your thinking is fine. But the 2x10 is gonna get 150 watts spread over 2 drivers & the 4x10 is gonna get 150w spread across all 4. So if the cab sensitivity specs are the same, then the 2x10 is gonna be a bit louder than the 4x10. I plugged a 4x10 into my 2x10 combo a couple of nights ago & you couldn't tell if it was on or not. I unplugged the 2x10 to check & yes it was there & plenty loud enough on it's own, but sounded nowhere near as loud or good as the 2x10. The 4x10 is SWR, the combo is Markbass. The B&C drivers in the combo have a far greater xmax than those in the SWR.

Why not sell one of the cabs & get 2 the same?

[quote name='indiegrungesound' timestamp='1377208965' post='2184952'] +1 For the Hartke. Great amplifier! To be fair though, The Laney Richter amps will do a job for you too. Therefore, I'd make a couple of suggestions: (1) Get a Laney RB7 2x10" combo 2nd hand, then look for the newer Richter 4x10" cab, which has a new badge & a higher power handling rating(Some of which have already turned up on eBay.). This way, you have a decent rehearsal combo & a pretty decent live 6x10" stack. (2) Get the Hartke LH500 with ANY decent 2nd hand 8 ohm cab that can handle 400 watts. [/quote] The problem with having a 2x10 & a 4x10 together is that the 2x10 is gonna be getting the same juice from the amp as the 4x10. If looking at cabs, look for the sensitivity of the thing. Watts mean very little on their own.

Like Alstocko says, Voodoo. You can listen to the full album on YouTube. Musically, it sounds very similar to Prince.

From 3 mins on is like Gospel... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4XI6LXCsH8 I was gonna pop this in the Pino thread too, but forgot. Excellent bassline all round!

What about... Wait for it.... Another BDI21... But this time, replace the case, switch & pots with better quality ones. I might just do that myself.