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For big gigs, I'd go for the 4x10 & 15 just for the image.

Oi! I might be old & fat (I used to have a 6 pack, now I have a keg), but I'm not bald (yet).

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1358330416' post='1936953'] Its funny hearing people say they can run their rig at 3 on the dial or whatever and it fitst the mix though. I think that is massively genre dependant. And rock and punk arent the most demanding genres for bass at all IME, As long as you have some nice grind going on - be it from some kind of overdriveyness or just bright strings hit hard with a pick to push the pups and pres nicely - then you can cut into a rock/punk mix without massive level, even with a pretty massive drummer. However even in my band - which is a three piece with a very dynamic drummer, he can play at whisper level and still groove like mad (never ever met a drummer who could do that anywhere near as convincingly, he is a real eye openeer) right up to road work volumes) I always end up with my rig at real war volumes in rehearsal, and I stand right in fornt of it with it stood on another 410. Its not a quiet cab, its not a quiet amp, its just the rest of the band want to hear more bass (always) which is kinda cool, but I would think maybe a little unusual? I mean its genuinely LOUD in there (ear plugs are [i]required[/i]), but it doesnt half feel good when you let rip and can feel it in your chest and your eyes wobble a bit Still sounds fantastic on the rehearsal recordings we do so I'm not worrying, just enjoying it - I certainly wouldnt need to be louder on a gig though! [/quote] That's a very good point. Most Rock, Metal & Punk bass have a very mid heavy sound with not so much in the low frequencies (it seems to sit better in the mix for some strange reason). It was the same with the bands of these genres that I used to play in. The last band was a folk/americana band in which my bass had not so much mids & quite a lot of bass which is more demanding on the drivers, even at a lower volume.

I wouldn't go for car speakers. 10" are usually subs & are low pass (so no mids or top).

When laying down some tracks in the studio & the soundy doing mic placement, Eric the drummer said.... "You can't polish a jobby"

Well I'm 42 & just starting a new band myself. I've always been a lover of breakbeat, drum n' bass, acid jazz, funk & house music. I decided as I've never played this stuff live & only done it on my mac, I wanted to. So I popped an ad on Join My Band, Bandmix, Gumtree & at work & so far I have a 37 year old singer who is right into acid jazz, house & breakbeat & sings similar to Jay Kay, I have a drummer who used to gig with a hiphop band & a funk band & is wanting to play breakbeat stuff as well & I have a few guitarists aged between 30 & 40 who want to join (though I've decided just to have one). It's a crossover of genres, so it's mainly originals with the odd cover done sod all like the original. Maybe take a punk song & give it a drum n' bass backbone with funk vocals? Just looking for a keys player now & we have our first get together on Friday. So I say go for it. If a 40 odd year old can do breakbeat, why not punk?

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1358269485' post='1936043'] seem to be called the kings house now. odd name. http://www.kingschurchperth.org - I know the fella who leads it, was at his daughter's wedding last month [/quote] Cheers, I'll have a look after dinner.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1358255668' post='1935626'] i know a good church in perth, they don't have an amzing amount of musicians at the mo, so much so that I once turned up with a band from Edinburgh to give them a week off. [/quote] Which one is that? I'll go have a look.

I try & do it with both. Not sure if it works or not yet though!

Whatever you want to spend from £515 to just over £1k. Here's the website... http://barefacedbass.com/product-range.htm & this stuff is worth reading regardless of whatever you're going for... http://barefacedbass.com/technical-information.htm

[quote name='janmaat' timestamp='1358201539' post='1934904'] Guys, I haven't really spoken overtely to anyone about this, but after 20+ years away from the faith I have found back to salvation, which is a beautiful miracle really because I really, really felt like the lost son sleeping with the pigs and full of guilt. After a long, long time of travels and ardour I've returned to my native land, and I finally contacted a local priest and she prayed with me, since I found it's not been up to me at all, and finally all fell into place. I pray every day and I go to church every Sunday and it's great, so far not been in contact with any other believers (apart from the other service goers who see me and I guess wonder about who exactly I am) about this really yet and felt that I should, because luke 11:33 and so on so I hope that this little story of mine will bring some joy into somebody's heart. Thanks, Jesus, for your never ending love. [/quote] Amen. I used to lay down the low end for The Lord, but I'm not able to go to that church anymore & struggling to find a new one. Not so much to play at, but just one that has a good worship & service combined. Got another to try this Sunday. If you need some good worship songs to learn (even just for at home), we can post some on here.

I agree with 51m0n, there's a lot of good cabs out there that will lighter, louder & sound better than what you're looking to do. I could add a 2x10 (or two) as a suggestion. I had a Trace Elliot 4x10 & got a MarkBass 2x10 combo to replace it, expecting to need to add another cab. But it's far superior in sound, volume & weight & has so far been more than loud enough for all the gigs I've done. Bigger venues of over 300 people have had PA & I've been asked to turn down at a few beer festivals without PA.

Though it's unlikely, I wouldn't 100% trust that your amp won't damage your speakers as watts is only the thermal rating of the drivers. If you exceed the driver's capabilities elsewhere then damage can occur. You can do damage to a cab rated at 1000w whilst using an amp rated at 100w (in the late 80s I broke a 500w cab with a 120w amp).

At the most, your amp will put 275 watts to each cab. If you go down the 4x10 & 1x15 route, put the quieter of the cabs to the top so you can hear it if you're causing it to fart. This will possibly be the 1x15, but it depends on the sensitivity of the driver (AKA is the 15 louder than 4 10s). I also suggest going with 2 cabs that are the same, but use your ears & see what sounds good to you. Having a read through the "amps & cabs" section on here as well as the barefaced & bill Fitzmaurice's websites can help give you some background & knowledge before buying.

Ive got £3.41 TBH, I don't know what it's worth, but there'll probably be someone along that does know.

I can't listen to the video just now, but if you get a boss OC2 or OC3 & put it on to -1 oct (have no direct or -2 oct audiable), then it's a good start for synth bass. Then put it through a Moog LPF & you can tweak some very synth like tones. Any excuse to get some Moog pedals, eh!

The bassist from Men Imitating Machines uses midi bass. I read Jarman's interview on Shep's blog & he was saying that he likes the ability to assign different sounds to each string. He's also looking at the IR Basses too. They look very promising.

Remind me never to get a Gibson Les Paul. A friend of mine has broke the headstock 3 times in the 4 years he's had it. one was from sitting in his livingroom against the wall & it just slid over & crack, a machine head hanging out & a lump of wood from the headstock on the floor. One of my old guitarists has a Tokai Les Paul that he got in the 80s. It's been dropped, fell over & seen a lot of gigs & it's still in good nick (other than the usual for that age). He said he prefers the sound of it over the Gibson LP (which he has, but hardly uses).

There's also having effects in their own loop within the chain. A simple example could be having a chain going octaver>loop>chorus>amp. In the loop you have 2 or more fx, so say fuzz>filter. So when the loop is bypassed & all pedals are on, you get octaver>chorus. Then you activate the loop & it puts the other 2 on in the chain. This is useful for when you want to turn more than 1 effect on for a section of a song (it saves tap dancing). My board has this (with 3 effects) & also a parallel loop as Pantherairsoft describes, which is only activated within the loop.

Yes, unlined.

What was making the farting noise, cab or drivers? Was it on a specific note & did you try backing off on the lower frequencies?

The last time I went ina shop to try out a bass was last year. I wanted to try a fretless, so the chap plugged it in & passed it to me. I sat there with it on my lap for @ 5 minutes just staring at the neck until a little drool appeared at the right corner of my mouth. I gave it a little wipe & then proceeded to play just a couple of random notes up & down the fretboard to check for intonation & fretbuzz, followed by holding the bass flat up to my eye & looking along the fretboard to check it was straight. I then attempted some harmonics, chords & a spot of tapping & that's when I got chucked out the shop.

So far I've found a guitarist through joinmyband, a singer through banxmix & a drummer through gumtree. Just looking for a keys player. Maybe on here?

[quote name='jackers' timestamp='1358074608' post='1932550'] Ok, so if I go for an 8 Ohm cab I would like it to be a 410 or 210 I reckon. If I get a 410, would adding a 210 from the same manufacturer as a second cab be a good idea? or should I just go with 2 of the same cab. [/quote] It's advisable to get 2 of the same cab, but use your ears. Adding a 2x10 to a 4x10 would mean that the 2x10 would be getting 150 watts to 2 10" drivers & the other 150w is spread across the other 4.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1357885364' post='1929969'] I am a jazz musician. It' s what I do. [/quote] Aren't they called incidentals? I've no idea how many mistakes I make at a gig, it's been a year since my last one. Hopefully let you know soon though!