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I could be wrong, but the way I see it is that they choose the couple of people who are either really good singers or have a visual charm that will sell with a passable voice (the main sellable product), and the rest of the contestants are for entertainment value only (like Chico or those 2 kids with the silly hair). They know that the main products are the ones in the final & they need the others to provide entertainment & play with the punter's emotions. Like Monty Python says, "And now for our talent spotting contest, and let's see if you can spot any talent amongst this lot!".

Well done Skol. And everyone else who entered. I never got a chance to listen to any more of the entries & place a vote, just been mega busy. Hopefully December will be a different month & I'll get an entry.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1354372968' post='1885304'] IMO anything that does more than just take the acoustic sound of instrument and just make it louder is an effect. End of story. [/quote] Agreed. But does that include the amp's EQ?

Depending on your budget, I'd look at buying a smallish combo for home & playing about. Most 1x10 or 1x12 are not too big & good for getting started out on.

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[quote name='TheRockinRoadie' timestamp='1354279983' post='1884358'] I ordered one of the GB 2x10 cabs after reading the referenced thread. I've hidden it away until Christmas, but its a decent size, not too heavey, and the corner handles are awesome! I have a 2ohm head, so I'll be running it with another 1x15 for bigger gigs, or just on its on for small gigs. Really looking forward to hearing it Christmas morning! They really seem to be excellent value for the money! [/quote] It would make more sense to add another 2x10. When one of you guys get the cab, you should pop a review in the "review" section.

That's double gross!

[quote name='leroydiamond' timestamp='1354270137' post='1884229'] Must keep an eye out for that RHCP double vinyl album. One of my favourite bands. Flea is the man really [/quote] Now there's a man who knows how to use effects to good effect.

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It's the same up this way. If I was a teenage metaller then I'd be fine. Serious shortage of musicians.

Another great album that has a crap bass mix is The Real Thing by FNM. Brilliant basslines that sound like they've been played by a skeleton in a biscuit tin. Always needs a bit of EQ to sound 1/2 decent, but I agree that nothing I do can make it sound good. They should get a decent producer to remaster it.

[quote name='Sibob' timestamp='1354098553' post='1881950'] I would certainly consider a multi-fx during this period of 'not knowing what you want/need'. There are some great pedals to be had second hand for only a little more than your budget. Boss ME-50B's often sell for around £80-90, and that's more than 20 different, good quality, effects easily. The Line6 M5 gets awesome reviews, Zoom stuff is coming back up. Good luck Si [/quote] I went to see a David Phelps gig a couple of years ago & the bassist was using a Sadowsky into a ME50B to a SWR Super Redhead. Had a great sound.

I started off a keys player, then harmonica, tenor horn, trumpet, guitar, bass, violin, drums, banjo & most recently tin whistle. My fave instrument to play in a band setting is bass. On my own it's probably keys & programming.

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1354202206' post='1883519'] If you switch to Talkbass, the Baer 112 cabs are getting stellar reviews all the time. Apparently the treble in 'just right', and the mids are stunning. [/quote] But what about the bass??? That's the bit that bassists really need.

Sorry, I've no suggestions for a builder. If it was I, I'd build it myself. I've been considering building a BFM Titan just for the lows.

[quote name='solo4652' timestamp='1354192322' post='1883297'] Well, the Promethean and I have gone through my CD selection and we've decided on Joss Stone's latest CD. We're going to play that this afternoon through the CD player on the TV and then I'll use the combo for the first time. Is that what you meant?! [/quote] I would have chosen more than 1 CD for several hour's listening myself. Though with my Markbass combo, it was just several hours of me playing my bass at home & then off to rehearsal a few nights later.

IIRC, Ampeg suggest playing pre recorded music (such as a CD) at a reasonable volume for several hours before first use.

fEarful 1212/6/1?

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1354102279' post='1882001'] In truth, I've never heard either Beck or Page playing bass so I can't really comment ... [/quote] Can't find any JP, but here's JB... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDgkbLw4qkw

I used to play in church with my Markbass 2x10 & wasn't going through the PA. 9 o'clock on the vol was more than ample (that's not much more than home practice volumes!).

51m0n, you make very good points, none which I can (or would) argue with. My point isn't so much about trying to fix the sound with EQ, but most people's listening rooms are not dedicated to just listening to music & designed around their hifi. It's usually something like you just described where there's furniture & reflective walls & having a quality hifi is more of a luxury to add to the room. So if you're sitting in your "optimal" position given the surroundings, then wouldn't being able to reduce any overpowering areas of frequencies be better than having to put up with something like having a harsh top end or sounding boomy around to 100-200hz area? I would never suggest adding any treble or bass, as like you said, it won't fix the issue. I agree that a lot of hifi comes with inadequate EQ. With the technology available today, it wouldn't be hard to make a good digital 20 band parametric EQ (a la VST stylee), though getting people to use it properly would probably be another task.

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1354028950' post='1881074'] <Oar-In> Now this whole using EQ to fix the room thing.... Its a bit of a myth actually You cant fix issues with room nodes with an eq, since regardless of the settings on the eq the issues prevail. The issues are more often time and frequency decay issue, whereby certain frequencies (due to ringing) may be louder for longer in one place and quieter in another than other frequencies. If you turn the eq down for one frequency you can fix the issue for one, tiny place, but will change the problem elsewhere (thats the nodes) but you wont fix the ringing (as seen on a waterfall plot), and you cant fix every multiple of the frequency (which you need to) without ruining the sound everywhere. And hi-fi has never, ever come with tone controls close to complex and comprehensive enough to even make a stab at fixing an acoustic. </Oar-in> As for True bypass vs Buffered? Use an active bass and stop worrying about it [/quote] Very true, but most dedicated audiophiles have their optimal sitting position, therefore EQ allows tailoring for that given position.

Having no tone controls to get a "pure" sound is baloni. The amp's pre & power sections & the speakers are going to colour it to some degree, as is the positioning of the speakers & the furnature in the room. Having an EQ of some sort means that if there's too much of something, you can roll it off. EQ/tone controls should be set flat & then adjusted to suit the room. This goes for any amp - bass, hifi or PA.