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[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='1171841' date='Mar 22 2011, 10:32 AM'] They're lined, but rather you than me. [/quote] Nah, Toooo easy! There's no challenge in that. Needs to be an unlined.

According to the Dingwall website, they do a fretless option. Whether it's lined or not I have no idea as I couldn't find any pics on the site.

I tried a couple of Dingwalls out @ 5 years ago in Ed Romans & really wanted one. It was just under $3k, which would have been @ £1400 in 2006 &that was for a 5 string Afterburner with wooden pots. I really wish I would have bought it back then (I had the spare pennies too!). I'm curious to see how folk will get on with an unlined fretless.

If you're looking around the £200 mark, then don't restrict your options. As mentioned there's Ashdown, there's also SWR, Orange & Hartke combos in your price range. If you're willing to go 2nd hand, have a look in the "amps for sale" section on here. You'll get much more for your money & the majority of bassists tend to look after our stuff.

Why not use your effects to come up with the kind of bass sound you want (incase you haven't done that already) & then decide what kind of music & what instruments you need? Then go & find those musicians & start your own band. I'm toying with one of 2 ideas when I get moved. 1, get back with my current band & get playing the stuff I know & work on new stuff or - 2, start a new band that's more down the breakbeat/dubstep/DnB route. Either is gonna be fun

[quote name='silddx' post='1170903' date='Mar 21 2011, 04:58 PM']If you think the effects v no effects debate is a little steamy, try the analogue effects v digital effects one for the full on volcano.[/quote] It's gotta be analogue all the way. Unless it's programmable or useful, then digital can be just as much fun [quote name='BottomE' post='1171113' date='Mar 21 2011, 07:08 PM']I think enough of you have mentioned the sub heading being offensive for me to apologise. It was meant in context to guitartists that i have worked with who can't seem to play as fluidly without a ton of effects as they can with - independant of genre. It was an observation not intended to harm or cause offense. I did try a compressor last night and was, well, left thinking whats it all about. In some ways i found it a bit of an impairment when i wanted to put some natural emphasis in certain passages of the song i was working with. All the compressors i have tried built into amps have been switched off after a minute due to IMO a negative impact on the sound. I am interested in trying a chorus though. Wondered what that might do for someone playing mainly old style funk and soul? And lastly - i probably DO use effects as the filters on the Little Mark are very powerful and i love 'em.[/quote] I don't think many on here really took any offence, I didn't even think about it. I don't find a compressor of use to me. Maybe I just don't know how to properly set one up, but each that I've tried only raised my noise floor & restricted my dynamics so I'll leave them to the soundman to apply if he wishes. I'm using a chorus just now. I used to have it on a slow shallowish setting so it was just subtle, but now it's on max depth & speed along with a few other fx to give that dubby wobble sound (it's a bit like me, BIG & thick).

+1 Take them back. Why are you wasting your time?

I tried a suitcase in GuitarGiotar (Glasgow) just prior to buying the MB combo & whilst it was a nice looking combo & sounded nice at low volumes, it farted the minute I turned it up. I then tried an EA 1x10 combo which blew it away (which was also very nice).

UPS = Useless Parcel Services. Still not 1/2 as bad as Sh!tty Stink.

City Link = worst courier available! Hopefully one day all companies will avoid these cowboys. Suggest to Ashdown that they find a different courier. I did to HP & was later told that they are looking to change couriers.

[quote name='Sawtooth' post='1169115' date='Mar 20 2011, 03:03 AM']I'd stick to the Bass Microsynth if you want to keep on playing. Forget about analogue synthesis, I lost quite a few years to these addictive little b*ggers, while my basses gathered dust .... [/quote] If either of those bad boys have an audio in, my bass would be going thru it! I've been very tempted to get another analogue synth (either a Moog, Korg or similar) to put my bass thru for our Electro Folk Dubstep stuff. [quote name='WalMan' post='1169202' date='Mar 20 2011, 09:19 AM']Bit of chorus, and I now have an octaver and compressor to go with the EBS Microbass II...and then last night there was just no room so I went radio->tuner->amp and it sounded just fine. Sort of goes back to my thread about slowly amassing the toys, only to have the vocalist say "I don't know why you bother with all that cr@p, it sounds great straight in". There could be a new For Sale thread coming at this rate!![/quote] I think when you're using quite a few fx, you have to think about what sort of music you're playing. In my rock band, I wouldn't use much more than a bit of overdrive & a couple of songs got a bit of wah (as they were funky songs). In my current band it depends on the song, but there's usually something on. The singer has a Godin guitar linked to his microKorg & gets some superb sounds that allows me to experiment.

I never used any effects for decades (not on bass, anyway) & then I got myself a wee zoom multi fx. I now use some sort of effect on just about every song we do (originals bands), whether that be just a touch of chorus to fill out a line, a bit of dubbiness from the LPF or full on animated sequences that swell & scare children. I find it can sometimes be harder to play when using fx, especially thd whole band keeping perfect time with a murf.

You get some pretty amazing sounds on there. Awesome stuff! Your drummer is right on the money too.

+1 for Reaper. I now only use it or Garageband (& both are FREE!). When I start getting more use out of Reaper I shall be buying the licence, but at present I'm lucky if I get to use it once a month.

I'd go with the Macbook Pro option. It might be dearer but I much prefer OSX over all the versions of windows I have/had (currently have a laptop with W7 & whilst it's a pretty good machine, I regret not getting a macbook). Other option is an iMac. My main machine is an iMac & have it running both OSX & W7 under Parallels (tho I rarely use W7 on it anymore). My other 1/2 was always a diehard PC fan & hated macs, now it's a fight for who's on the mac & who gets windows (or sit & watch telly).

Do you still have to pay the return postage with Thomann if the instrument's not up to scratch? I was reading that thread Redstriper posted the link for & one chap say's return postage is @ £40-50. They do get a few thumbs up on there for being budget instruments, but also noted that some have misaligned necks. I wonder if Thomann can charge you postage for an instrument that isn't playable if you had to return it for that reason? Maybe the Squire option from above doesn't have a return option (depends on who you buy from), but you could punt it on at no loss whereas the HB is gonna cost either way (return or selling on).

I'm using the Alesis iMultimix 8 USB & have no complaints with it other than the fact that I haven't been able to use my iPhone on it since updating to iOS4. A chap from Alesis has been looking into it for me tho (I need to email him & see if there's any news on an update yet). I plug my gear straight into it & USB straight into the iMac.

My Ibanez bass is well. My Vox bass is ill (poor thing has a broken nut).

Kids these days (and in days past) want subs in their cars, in their homes & anywhere else so they can feel the bass. I'm the guy who likes to make those feelings!

When you're as cool as I am, you need a cool instrument to play & you don't get much cooler than a great bassline that makes people want to dance. So I took up the Tenor Horn.

There's plenty of decent "budget" basses our there without having to buy crap. Ibanez, Yamaha, Squire & Cort are just a few names that come to mind. Have a look in the "Basses For Sale" section on here.