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Who’s Shane?

I don't comment on much in the For Sale sections. Most recent was a Roli Rise, only because I have one & the seller was letting it go at a bargain price. I like reading comments on things for sale, especially if it's from someone with experience of the item.

I'll get a listen soon. I nearly had my track done too, but the month passed me by.

The other thing to take into account is the watts from the amp is not a constant. If you plug a cab into your amp & play nothing, then you have a minimal amount of watts going to the cab. You can plug any wattage of cab into your amp & it be fine... Just use your ears & don’t start at high volume with a new amp/cab until you know it’s limits (the signal from your bass will also have an impact on this too). Alex of Barefaced once said that he blew a larger watt rated driver with a relatively small amp. Watts in a speakers rating are the thermal measurement for the voicecoil (how much heat it can take).

With amps, it’s usualy the case that 8 ohm = @ 2/3 of the watts of 4 ohm. There may well be exceptions though. With most manufacturers, the guys putting the specs isn’t always the same as the guys who make/design things.

From what I know (& I could be wrong), a 4Ω load is always going to be a 4Ω load (or there about). Even at lower volumes, it's still not going to be an 8Ω load (I think you got that bit). At home volumes, I can see where you're coming from. But at rehearsal & gigging volumes, the current supplied to get the same volume is going to be greater through the 4Ω cab. Yes the dials on the amp will be lower, but the lower load means that the current travels greater. The difference in volume is only a small amount (as you know). It's not the difference between the amp being at 1/2 volume Vs full volume. More like on a scale of 1-10, the amp volume being at 8 Vs 9 (taking an approximate guess here, as it really depends on the amp & cabs as well as the bass). So this is why I would normally choose an 8Ω cab. Though I do know that most 2x12 cabs are 4Ω & if it were the cab for me, then I'd happily use it & get the extra amp services if it was required.

I think you're looking at my analogy wrong. 😂 I wasn't relating it to volume, decibels or watts. Just ohms. Watts are not a measure of volume, decibels are. I used to use a 50w amp for PA through 4 15'" full range cabs & another 50w amp to run 2 subs. That was a loud rig. Your 2nd sentence is correct. Ohms is in relation to how much current is being drawn through the circuitry.

I only chose the 4Ω as I needed something large for the amp & couldn't find a decent 8Ω in my budget at the time. It does sound rather good though, but rarely gets used. The reason I would choose 2 8Ω cabs is because most of the time I would be running just the 1 8Ω cab. Ohms don't work the same as watts, as in the amp will be running at the same load regardless of volume. I wasn't suggesting that todays Class D amps are wilting snowdrops, but like all good electronic equipment, they age & require servicing. I like vintage synths (unfortunately, I don't have any) & they need regular servicing too. Car analogy time. 😀 You're building a car & now have the gearbox options. Are you going to put a 4 speed box in & have the engine running close to the redline, or are you going for the 8 speed box & keep things well below the redline? It's fine to go up to the redline, but the more you do it, the more the engine will need a regular service.

I'm not sure what they mean by "Breathe", Alex, Steve or Bill might be better suited to shed light there? The other thing that you need to consider when using a 4Ω cab, is that it will put extra wear & strain on the amp's components, as there is an increase in current going through the circuit. This could mean that you need to get your amp serviced more frequently, which could also lead to it's life expectancy being reduced. I would always choose an 8Ω over a 4Ω cab of the same, as 1, it allows me to add a 2nd cab if the one cab isn't enough for the bigger gigs & 2, it means that I'm not always running the amp at it's min load. Saying all this, I have a 4Ω EBS 4x10 that I bought from the OP a couple of years ago plugged into a 60 year old Radiovox valve amp. 😂

Sorry Al, this likely isn't the issue. Watts work in an "up to" kind of way. With an 8Ω cab attached to a 500w amp, the amp will send up to 350w, but that's if the amp is being fully pushed. There'll also the possibility of spikes which exceed this. Changing the cab for the same one, but a 4Ω version is going to give about a 3db increase in volume, which I doubt is going to result in things going from "no trouser flapping" to "trouser flapping". I used to have a MarkBass 2x10 8Ω, which was plenty loud enough to keep up with a loud drummer & 2 loud guitars. It wasn't trouser flapping like a big sub, but it sounded good & had plenty of punch.

What about a good 2x12? Other idea would be to get an active sub to add to any cab of your choosing?

What is it with guitards & 4x12s? Last band I was in with a guitardist, he would go stereo through 2 4x12s in the rehearsal room. Sounded bloody awful. The 1 gig we did, he played through a 1x12 combo & it sounded really good.

Don't get caught up in watts. You can put a low wattage amp through an efficient cab & it'll be loud. If I were buying, I'd probably go for 2 1x12 cabs. I can use just one in the house & for most small gigs, then add the 2nd for when I need more volume. Saying this, I used to have a MarkBass 2x10 which got used everywhere. From in the bedroom, to Beer Festivals.

I love how this thread has gone from Al Krow asking a typical noob question about Ω, to debating fundamental frequencies. All in less than 5 months! Isn't it great what BC & it's members can teach one another.

Finger drummer? Something like an Akai MPC for drums?

I got it this morning. Opened up Safari on my phone & got the pop up (BC is usually the last page I was on, so it's normally the first page to open). Closed Safari & opened again. all fine.

Fantastic album. Like mix between Aurora, Bjork & Sigur Ros. Cheers for this. 😎

I never knew the lyrics. That's a b*gger of a song!

I’d be fighting it. They have admitted that they sent it to the wrong place, so not so much lost or damaged, but sent to the wrong place by them. Check the small print & see if it says anything about that. If your home insurance has legal cover, see if it can help you. In most instances, it will.

Every band I've been in, I've tried to get them to play this song just so I can play that bassline. The versions with Chromeo and Meyer Hawthorne are pretty good too.

I sold 2 Moog pedals (now wish I hadn't). Used I Post Parcels for both. Insurance was only a few quid extra & both delivered without issue (Bass Murf went to Norway). I've used them a few times since & would highly recommend them.

’ve used my iPhone as a sound module, but I wouldn’t rely on the connectors for regular gigging. However, a MacBook connected to an audio interface is perfectly fine. Here’s my set up.

Oh, I rememeber this bloke using a capo on bass...

Capos are only for acoustic guitars. Even electric guitars should refrain from using them & just man up & learn the chords. Playing in a worship band that’s female lead, there’s very few songs played in the original key, which can make the song sound nothing like the original.

Capo? You could detune to the lowest & then capo as per song pitch.