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Well done Bilbo. Nice playing too.

I was going to say that it sounds like you should try playing with a lighter touch, but if you have basses with a similar action, then maybe it's the neck relief that may need adjusted. Also worth checking if the bridge needs adjusted & if the neck needs a shim added/removed.

Having tried all Fender's Jazz lineup from the Squier to the Jaco, I'd put the Squier above the MIM for value for money. A set of flats & maybe upgrade the pick ups & it's a stonker.

[quote name='T-Bay' timestamp='1506715648' post='3380702'] Poll says bass types ;-) [/quote] Arrr. missed that bit. I'll amend my vote.

My old Vox has one or 2 slight blemishes. [url=https://flic.kr/p/bGUdZp][/url]

You didn't say whether this was basses or instruments. I have a 4 string bass (& one in bits), a 6 string acoustic (guitar), a ukulele & a keyboard. I'm wanting a 5 string bass, possibly fretless.

[quote name='LewisK1975' timestamp='1506698098' post='3380526'] Admittedly I haven't been through all of the responses on here, but on the recent thread discussing the new iPhone and it's relative cost, I made the point that non-musicians get GAS too, for the latest iPhone / TV / Games Console etc. Basically I was saying that Apple releasing a new iPhone and the so-called 'sheep' queueing around the block for it were no different than Bass players who have a favourite brand 'queueing around the block' for the latest offering from Fender / Darkglass / Insert your favourite manufacturer here'. There were various responses saying how you can't compare Basses / Amps to iPhones, and I was essentially shot down in flames. Fine, it's an open forum and I'm perfectly willing & happy to listen to others points of view. So here we now have a thread where Bass players are justifying the cost of the new Darkglass cabs by comparing them to how Apple (amongst others) market and sell their products. You couldn't make it up! [/quote] If Apple released a product that was overpriced & poor spec'd, then it would be a good comparison. The iPhone X is expensive, but they've put a lot of features into it & released as a 10th anniversary item. I'm not gonna spend over £1k on a phone. Unless this 4x10 sounds incredible compared to other top end cabs & has some good driver filtering, then I think it may just be well overpriced for an overweight 4x10. It'll probably sell to the folk whom think "It's expensive, so it must be good".

There's nowhere about how loud the cabs are either. Not even any SPL figures.

Mine's my initials. I had a car many moons ago that had an X at each end of the numberplate. I needed an email name.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1506617178' post='3380000'] It's like 'premium' fuel for your car. In the vast majority of cases it works no better, but since it costs more the masses are convinced that it must work better. In fact, owners of higher priced cars feel shorted if there isn't a sticker inside their fuel filler door that says high octane fuel is at the least recommended, if not required. And then there's the 'Fender Special Design' stickers that have adorned their drivers since the 1960s. Most of the time the only thing special about them was the sticker. [/quote] In the US your Regular 91 fuel is about the same as UK standard fuel. We have 95 octane as regular & 98 octane as premium (which usually has additives such as stock 50 in it to help keep things clean). For performance cars with a decent sized engine, then it does make a difference. Friend of mine has a BMW M3, which he'd been filling with 98 octane from new. after about a year, he thought he'd try saving some pennies by using the 95 octane. After a few months, the car didn't start on 1st turn & the MPG was down about 5. He switched back & shortly after, it was running like it was before. My Qashqai only warrants 95 octane. If I could get the 89 octane in the UK, then that would be more than ample for the crappy engine in it.

[quote name='ezbass' timestamp='1506584386' post='3379659'] I keep getting dreadnought or jumbo GAS. [/quote] I've got dreadnought & jumbo gas. My colleagues are gonna kick me out the office soon if I can't hold it.

[quote name='kumimajava' timestamp='1506579839' post='3379615'] Might not be of help, since it's not feedback on guitars - but Novax do provide aftermarket fan-fret bass necks for standard J/P basses. As far as I can tell, it's the same idea as you're describing - perpendicular "fret" is in fact at the bridge. If they're making them, I presume there must be (some) demand for them... thought I've not seen anyone here or on TalkBass mention using one. [/quote] Dingwall basses were one of the first basses to use them. There's now quite a few luthiers & builders putting fan fret options available. Even Ibanez have fan fret basses. Many of the fan fret basses have the perpendicular fret about the 9th fret.

That's a nice guitar & good to hear that it ticks your boxes. I never get in this part of the forum often enough. I went acoustic guitar shopping a good few years ago. Went round loads of shops in Glasgow & couldn't find anything that ticked all the boxes for me within the £500 budget that I had. I then went to a wee shop in Falkirk & tried (amongst others) a Freshman FA300. That's now my guitar. The thing about acoustic guitars is that you can really like the look of something & then when you play it, it's just not for you. I think this is less an issue with the higher end ones. My dad in law got a Lowden O35 last year & it looks, plays & sounds stunning, but then I think it should for £5700.

I can see why that would work for guitar. It could make chords down the bottom more comfortable & it retains the upper frets in a position that most guitarists are used to for soloing. I'm still not convinced that fanned fret is something a guitarist needs for tone, unless it is to shorten the scale. They don't need extra length in the lower strings to improve bass, that's us bassists job!

Seems like where Darkglass preamp pedals were created by passion for sound, the amps & cabs have been created with a passion for money. This is the first bit of blurb about the 4x10 on the DG website... [font=Ubuntu, helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=5]"Cabinets are probably the most underrated link on a musician’s signal chain: we players obsess relentlessly about instruments, pedals and amplifiers, not realizing that without speakers all of these elements merely generate or process electric signals."[/size][/font] Obviously whomever wrote that has never visited any bass forum, let alone BC Reading further, there's nothing to suggest that they've taken a similar approach as Barefaced have when putting drivers side by side to improve dispersion, so therefor, appears to be just another 4x10 but way overpriced.

Here's me expecting a thread about patter with the ladies.

I don't have a "Mid" on my amp, just Bass & Treble. The knobs are on guitar & vocals.

You could head up the Royal Mile. Always plenty to do there.

If you want something orange, get a Markbass.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1506158976' post='3376763'] Who was the successful million selling guitarist you are quoting? [/quote] Are you thinking he might join you?

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1506095815' post='3376475'] Ok cool. Yup for sure you won't be able to tell its 300W at 4ohm, that was just for illustrative purposes. But the 3db point is actually really helpful, thanks, and this is what I was trying to get to the bottom of. That much more "scientifically" illustrates that the benefit from swapping from an 8ohm to a 4ohm cab is going to be pretty small, which is what Chris was getting at. That says to me, no particular need for the OP to swap his Mesa 1x12 cab 8 ohm (which I understand separately from him, he really likes) for a 4 ohm version. He could consider swapping to a well designed 2x10 4ohm (or possibly 8ohm cab) which will both displace a significantly larger volume of air and, if it's a 4ohm, also have an additional small db (3db in our example) advantage, which together would start to stack up in volume / heft terms. [/quote] If he likes the sound of the cab he has, it would make sense to keep the 8ohm 1x12 & then if he has gigs that need more volume, get a 2nd identical cab. This would give a bigger perceived volume increase as there's more cone mass moving more air & it wouldn't alter the sound that he has just now.

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1506089983' post='3376423'] Gents all good points and nothing I disagree with there (and hopefully reasonably well known to folk on this forum that the relation between Watts and volume is usually considered to be 10x Watts = 2x Volume i.e. a logarithmic scale). But if we are going to properly A/B the change in ohms we need to keep all other factors constant (including e.g. speaker size). My point is a relatively simple one, let me illustrate it as follows: Amp let's say is a Markbass LM3 (max 500W at 4 ohm), with the dial set leaving plenty of headroom, so that it is outputting 300W at 4 ohm. We start with a Vanderkley 1x12 4ohm cab and listen to the volume. We then swap it for a Vanderkley 1x12 8ohm cab, [i]leaving all the settings on the amp the same [/i](the amp will now be outputting 150W) The 8ohm cab is noticeably quieter, right? Or Chris are you saying no material difference? [/quote] How do you know that it's going to be putting out 300w at 4 ohm? The volume & gain dials don't give any indication. Different basses have different outputs, so it depends on how hot an output the bass is giving. You might find with a hot bass it's clipping really early & the volume knob doesn't get to 1/2 way before reaching it's max. Then with a quiet bass you might find you can have the gain & volume right up & be lucky to get that 300w, let alone 500. Though to answer your question, it's 3db. at a really low volume, you will hear a difference, but at normal playing volumes, it's a negligible amount.

I think you guys are confusing Heft & Girth for Heffer & Garth!

I believe the difference is 3db. Now if you're playing with the amp maxed, then that 3db could make a little difference. If you're not playing with the amp maxed, then the difference is a squeeze on the volume knob.