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Just been having a listen to the entries. Good interpretations of the picture. All different from what I envisioned, but that's the beauty of music. Mine's almost done, it's just getting time to do a little her & there & get the iPad off the Mrs. I'm gonna get back to it just now.

Hysteria always got me when going back to the A & then repeating the riff. One that I really enjoy playing, but not well enough to play thoroughly, is Wynona's Big Brown Beaver by Primus. The main riff is one that puts a smile on my face.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1423349469' post='2683908'] Now you're stretching the bounds of incredulilty. [/quote] I was believing everything he said until he mentioned the drummer!

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1423238852' post='2682671'] Bach's Cello Suite No.1 In the original key, in the original octave [/quote] In G major? I transposed it to C to play it on 4 string bass. Another you might enjoy playing is Fur Elise. Again in the original key.

The hardest bassline that I managed to get to gig standard was Shy Boy by Talas. Took me a damn long time, but I got there. I didn't try rhythm stick until a few years back as I never thought I'd be able to play it & then surprised myself that I could. Sir Duke, I can play most of, but where the bass starts to get more technical, I get my thumbs in knots.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1423172912' post='2681910'] It can make a major difference, with guitar as well. The more dense the wood the brighter the tone, and the longer the sustain. [/quote] I know it's been a commonly debated subject. I know that in an acoustic instrument there is a noticeable difference, but for electric, the debates have mostly said it's minimal. The string rests on the bridge & nut (another 2 parts that are contested to whether they affect tone) & the sound is picked up from the electrics. From my understanding, the density could impact how the vibrations travel, leading to < or > sustain, but not play that big a part on the actual tone, hence different body materials still sounding similar to ones made of wood. Is it more to do with the density of the material & not whether it is wood? Meaning that if a bass is made from a hard alloy, it would have similar characteristics as a hard wood of similar density? I've not got the means to test & it's hard to trust a manufacturer, as they're gonna say what is going to sell more.

[quote name='monsterthompson' timestamp='1423158878' post='2681612'] fair enough. however an unplugged acoustic instrument may be a better analogy. the string/driver choice will have an impact on the nature/quality of the tone output, but the body/cab will be more influential on how it projects to the listener. [/quote] That would be a good analogy. However, your analogy using the electric instrument might be a valid one too. I believe that I'm right, that the bodymaterial of an electric bass doesn't have much baring on tone, but I can't guarantee it.

[quote name='monsterthompson' timestamp='1422994530' post='2679333'] in bass guitar terms, it sounds like the driver is like a string and the enclosure is like the body. a type of string (flat, round, hex core, steel, etc.) will have a characteristic, but the body will be more influential on the overall tone. [/quote] There's a whole new debate (old & done several times). Does the body have any bearing on how an electric instrument actually sounds? Does the Ampeg plexiglass thing sound plasticy? Are Gus basses only good for metal, or do they sound plasticy too? I think the body & neck material has very little to do with the sound & it's all about the stings & electrics (pickups, etc) & the scale of the instrument.

I'm more of an Ivor the Enging Man myself. I got Korg Gadget on the iPad last week, so I'll see if I can make something. Busy month with cakes though, but I'll try.

Here's the top 10. Steve Harris (Iron Maiden) Cliff Burton (Metallica) Geddy Lee (Rush) Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath) Les Claypool (Primus) Paul Gray (Slipknot) Jaco Pastorius (Weather Report) John Myung (Dream Theater) Justin Chancellor (Tool) Lemmy (Motörhead)H Well seeing that it is a magazine for mostly teenagers & not really a bassists mag, there's no guitarists been named.

There was one for sale on here. Might still be there. I was tempted to get a 102STD to make a 4x10 column, though I never had any gigs where the combo needed it.

If you think your bridge has made a huge difference to the sound, it could well be down to the set up (string distance from pick up). I changed from a high mass to a bent tin style & there was no difference in sound. But the high mass had more adjustment options. If a bridge did make a difference to the sound, I doubt you'd hear that difference when the band a playing.

I'd go for the LMIII & then try out a cab & see what you prefer the sound of. Then if you need more volume, get another cab that's the same.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1422308968' post='2671102'] The "ACME solution" (not my image) [/quote] Spot on! Or a 90 degree curved barefaced badge in the same place.

[quote name='Huge Hands' timestamp='1421861732' post='2665942'] Alex's explanation of the static badges: [i]"When we started on the Retro10 cabs we put quite a lot of time into trying to do a square or round logo for horizonal or vertical stacking but never managed anything we were totally happy with. One that physically rotates would be a rattly nightmare on cabs this powerful - it's hard enough damping a steel grill!"[/i] [/quote] Tell him to stick it diagonally at the top right corner (if lying horizontally).

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1422211137' post='2669908'] Nicest lightweight combo I've used was a 2x10 Markbass that a friend lent me. Remarkably full and loud for such a small beast. [/quote] I used mine when I played in a worship band. Always had a good clear sound & plenty volume available (I never DI'd the bass).

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1421214977' post='2658463'] Unless I have missed this important part of the OP thread, how can you guys give opinions and suggestions if we don't know how old the OP is? If he/she is 12, I would have completely different ideas from what I would give a 40 year old. Blue [/quote] Going by a previous post, at least 21. It's normal practice in church for everyone to have lyric sheets with the chords written with them. Just make sure that the chords are written in time with the lyrics. Make your own notes on the sheets for any changes. Maybe practice along to songs like "Give us clean hands" (Kutliss) where the bassline is doing a steady rhythm to improve your timing. A good place to learn songs is on YouTube. Hillsongs have isolated bass videos on YT too. I'd forgotten about Rend Collective. But if you like them, have a listen to All Sons & Daughters and also Gungor.

Back when I was a teenager, one of my friends decid to take up guitar (he was a drummer), so bought himself an acoustic guitar. Not long after, he came to me with a distortion pedal in his hand asking "how do I stick the distortion on my guitar". "Duck tape" wasn't the answer he was looking for.

It's all about practice, practice, practice. A good teacher is a good investment, but if you don't have the money, then grab a metronome & do what ambient said. When playing at home or with the band, count the beats. If you don't know the time signature, ask someone. With worship music, a song is most likely 3/4, 4/4 or 12/8. Youtube is a good place to learn things too. And until you're ready, ask the WL to avoid songs with hard basslines such as "Salvation is here"