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I suppose getting a rock player to play disco style is like trying to get a folk player to play jazz. Unless they've practiced the genre & got a feel for it, it's most likely gonna sound like the genre that they normally play in.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1416327986' post='2609096'] The current song atm that I hear 'butchered' most times is 'Get Lucky'.. [/quote] On paper, it's a simple song. In reality, it takes a decent guitarist that knows how to play funk or disco to get that part to feel right (it doesn't have to be the same sequence, but it has to have that feel). The bassline isn't hard either, but it needs to be tight & have that disco/soul feel to the length of the notes. A previous band I had tried it. Tried a couple of times & all enjoyed playing it, but we did destroy it. The guitarists were both rock strummers & knew not who Nile Rogers was. Needles to say, that funk/electro/acid jazz band did not last long (though maybe too long).

[quote name='uncle psychosis' timestamp='1416324126' post='2609060'] Its actually very hard to correlate perceived volume with measurements. SPL is not a bad place to start but even then the relationship between SPL and loudness isn't a simple one. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness[/url] [/quote] & then it's not so much what amp, but what cabs & drivers. You could stick the same amp through an average 2x10 & then a better 2x10 and find the perceived volume difference to be huge.

It depends really on the "standards" that you refer to. Are they jazz standards or the guff mentioned above?

If you're wanting to play synth sounds from your bass, then you're better to go down either the separate pedals route (wet octaver, dirt, filter & whatever else you fancy), or get a midi bass & plug it into the Arturia (the IR midi bass gets a thumbs up from many users on OBW).

[quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1416243026' post='2608230'] can you get a rack mount 11 band EQ ? [/quote] Not that I know of, but you can get plenty of eq pedals. These are usually more suited to bass. The closest I got to using an equaliser was using a moog bass Murf, but that was to split frequencies & add more effects to them. What's wrong with the amp's eq section?

A 31 band eq isn't needed for bass. 11 is probably more than enough. With 31, you could spend all evening at sound check trying to get it to sound right. Especially if you're not sure what frequencies do what in relation to what you're hearing. But if you're going to use one, then like Dad says, put it in the fx loop.

In most of my previous bands, I did most of the organising. The acoustica band had an excellent singer who did a lot of the work & the last band was an electronica band, where the keys player did all the work. The bands that have been hard work have been the ones with guitarists in them. They tend to be decent chaps, but don't like to write their own guitar parts, don't organise rehearsals or gigs & like to play louder than the drummer can possibly hit or noodle when the vocalist is trying to sing. Kinda makes me happy I only play at home now, though I do miss gigging.

Other than good dispersion.

That, I can understand.

[quote name='MiltyG565' timestamp='1416170303' post='2607616'] I thought we weren't allowed to do that? [/quote] I wasn't aware of that as even a guideline, hence the link in my sig. Is it frowned upon?

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1416108832' post='2606983'] That Bob from Gumtree is a time-wasting tyre kicker and smells of cheap after-shave. Avoid. [/quote] At least he's not as bad as Tim. I haven't sold much on here (only because I haven't had much to sell), but I see £20 as a very small amount back for all the knowledge & help I've had over the years from the members on this site. Without this site, I wouldnt have gotten these people's knowledge & had to resort to Talkbass, where I would need to work to identify the knowledgable people in a sea of spotty (& unspotty) teenagers.

I used to be play the first two albums all the time & he was probably one of my influences (without realising it at the time). Never bought any of their stuff after SFTBC for some strange reason. I've been listening to those albums a bit recently too.

If you know how to use a screwdriver without slipping & scratching your bass, it's simple enough. Just make sure that the screwdriver is a snug fit to avoid slipping or damaging the screwhead.

I used to get a very double bassesque sound using the Moog LPF with a patch lead from the env out & back to the cutoff in & had the cutoff dial at about 9 o'clock. This meant that the note came on with a full sound & a slight delay on the attack & then the note was filtered quickish but kept the low end. That was with a fretted bass too, fretless would have been better still.

Or you could use YouTube & Google & do it yourself.

My first thought was the first few replies... Get a small mixer. As for headphones, make sure the mixer you get has a headphone out (or two). As for portable combos that you can gig with, I've had bass & lekky drums doing exactly what you want. A mixer into a Markbass combo. Did it at a beer festival & regularly at church.

changing your pickups can make a huge difference, as can the height of them. Changing the height alters the tone too.

The cab was the limiting factor. It can only produce as many decibels as the drivers will allow. It doesn't matter how many watts are thrown at a cab, watts don't make decibels. There's many factors to take into account. Like other posts, it may be where you was standing in relation to the cab. Too close or off axis & it can have quite an impact on how you hear yourself.

Have you tried a MarkBass cab? I say try, as some folk love them & some don't. They're certaintly light & loud & I think they sound fantastic.

When you get down to the lower notes (as in E string 5th fret) the octave down note is going to sound more like a large rubber band & the chances of your cab dealing with the note & holding the bottom end are most likely very little. Though you do say that the octave on its own sounds fine, which makes me think the LS2 or similar would be a solution.

& all this can change depending on what sort of music you want to play. I ended up playing electronica & the effects became more expensive than my bass! Great fun though.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1415659926' post='2602553'] As i said there are obvious times to use it. [/quote] Good point. But if everyone chose not to use to sell & only to buy, then you wouldn't be able to use it.

2 Qs. How is the octave set? Is it -1 (or -2) octave only or is there the original note with it? How far down is the "lower register"? Is it below Bb? Can your rig produce these lower notes an octave (or two) down? Other thing. The overdrive could be cutting out low end below a given note (many dirt pedals do). If so, you can split the signal after the octave, keep 1 clean & put the other through the dirt & then sum them back together, that will fix that scenario. A Boss LS2 would do.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1415648702' post='2602410'] ....and there are obvious reasons at times to use it. [/quote] In most cases it seems only to favour the buyer.