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[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1503688639' post='3360362'] Just to show what the subject is, here's a BB King to play around with... [attachment=252123:TheThrillIsGone.pdf] (Download and change file name to 'TheThrillIsGone.pdf'...) It looks like this ... ... but complete, of course. Purists won't be able to figure it out, maybe (although they could learn..?), but some of you might appreciate it. Just sayin'. [/quote] The main thing that people struggle with in reading notation is the rhythm. That has rhythm, so why not go that teeny weeny little bit further and learn the notes too? Something that would take a few hours maximum to do. Also, the bass part to that would mean absolutely nothing to someone playing anything but bass guitar. Whereas if it was written in standard notation, it would be something that anyone else would understand, keyboards/piano for instance. So they would be able to play the part. Personally, I couldn't be less bothered what people use to be able to perform a part, I [b]can[/b] sight-read to a very good standard, i know that the chances of me turning up to play somewhere, and being given something like that are pretty much non-existent, but I can expect to turn up to a gig, and be given a notated part. So I'll get gigs that others won't . I also know from experience that there are plenty of people out there, who have spent years getting by in music, who then decide that they want to 'do it properly'. That's a term that they use, not me by the way. I've lost count of the number of people who've said that to me. Sight-reading is a skill, it needn't be hard to learn though. I've been teaching a guy who last week turned 80. In a little over a year, he knows all the notes on his fretboard, he can improvise from his real book, and can sight-read basic parts.

[quote name='Nicko' timestamp='1503661838' post='3360064'] Conversely, with standard notation there are techniques that I'm not sure how one would represent. How do you differentiate between a thumb slap, hammer on, pull off and picked note for instance. [/quote] I had to notate an album of experimental/solo bass music for a project. Each chart was maybe 30 A4 pages long. You can pretty much notate any technique. Thumb slaps tend to have a T above the note. I used a key that accompanied each chart.

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1503655028' post='3359959'] Apple's business model? Bleed the customer white... [/quote] How? My MacBook is now almost 6 years old. I got a great educational discount when I bought it, courtesy of Apple, not the shop I bought it from. I bought Logic Pro X a day after I bought the MacBook, again I got a discount for buying that. It's a fantastic bit of software that I use for several hours everyday, it has never ever crashed or frozen on me. I've updated it a couple of times whenever an update is released, these are always free.

I suspect he'd sound like Marcus Miller regardless of what he played through.

Don't upgrade, there's no need to. My old MacBook was a white plastic bodied one from 2009 I think. It was still running perfectly well on whatever OS it had on it, it had never been updated, and was quite happily running Logic 9. The only reason I sold it was because I wanted to use Logic X, which is what was being used at uni.

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1503565858' post='3359154'] But... Logic X is the current one. I use it & never got any email about it not being compatible with the OS update. [/quote] Yeah, I meant 'it' to mean whatever version of Logic he's using. My first coffee hadn't kicked in .

What version of Logic are you running? Logic X has been out for over 4 years, I guess they think that there are very few people still running older versions. It's the same when any operating system changes. I know people who use ProTools on PCs, they found they couldn't open it when they updated from whatever Windows system they use.

I've done jazz gigs with a drummer, sax, keys, and vocal with my double 4. How about a Markbass 121P combo. They're brilliant.

He's really very good .

[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1503493414' post='3358676'] Why is your list more influential/inspiring than one comprised of Lemmy, Paul McCartney and Duff McKagan? [/quote] Haven't said they are, It's a hypothetical question, you've been asked to provide a list, that's my list. I have zero interest in any of the players you've quoted, I don't find them at all inspiring, I really dislike both Guns and roses and Motorhead, in fact I really dislike that whole rock thing. That's a beside the point though, because it's my list .

I'll have to listen to that later, thanks 😊.

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1503482658' post='3358545'] I do get that this is supposed to be a fun thing, and not to be taken too seriously, but I'd be quite concerned if anyone actually followed that advice. I can't think of a faster way to discourage a newbie on bass than by pointing him/her at full fat Jaco Pastorius or at Marcus Miller in "look at me! look at me!" mode. If one of my kids genuinely wanted me to recommend some of my favourite bass work to help them get started, I'd just say two words: Duck Dunn. [/quote] Which would turn me off, I really dislike that kind of thing. Each to his/her own though, which I guess is the point of this.

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1503481179' post='3358525'] just what I was thinking, we all started playing because we wanted to play stuff we liked, not what our old man liked, or what the tutor liked, that's enough to put anyone off [/quote] I got into a whole load of music through my tutor that I'd never encountered before. My dad's choice of music was and is fairly bland. My tutor got me into the whole jazz thing, and then solo bass by lending me an early Michael Manring CD. I think the idea is, we all have favourite or inspirational players, so name 5 albums that you think epitomise great bass playing.

[quote name='fiatcoupe432' timestamp='1503475408' post='3358458'] Plus one on this I think line by line has been one of my favourite album for a long time [/quote] Theme and variations for 6 string bass, amazing!

[quote name='HazBeen' timestamp='1503403789' post='3357906'] I use a laptop 19v external battery to power by PJB DoubleFour. It is surprisingly loud, and I get about 2/3 hours from a charge, if you would have 2 and switch half way through the set you would be fine....?? [/quote] Sorry for going slightly off topic. Can I ask what battery you use please?

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1503444564' post='3358374'] "Right then boys; do you want me to tell who/what* I think are the best players/bands/songs/albums/styles*, or do you want me to suggest something you might have a chance of actually being able to play sometime soon?" *Delete as appropriate [/quote] I'd say check these out, they'll give you ideas of what the bass [b][i]can[/i][/b] do. Don't copy, be influenced and inspired.

Couldn't be more different . 1- Michael Manring - the book of flame 2 - Steve Lawson - grace and gratitude 3 - Anthony Jackson - anything! 4 - John Patitucci - line by line 5 - Jonas Hellborg - silent life

I've never seen a major 7 written with a line through the 7. I imagine that could be confusing, a lot of people, me included write their 7s like that anyway. Other ways are M7, and sometimes a triangle.

Get him to stick labels on with his name and address, then rough them up a bit, make them look old. Maybe also stencil his name across it? Just so it looks like his instrument that he's owned for some time.

[quote name='noc' timestamp='1503414058' post='3358034'] Yeah im feeling like that that... Would it be different if a citizen/someone who lives in the US was coming to visit England you think? [/quote] That would be different. It'd be like you taking an instrument away with you to the US. I once met someone on here who was American, but lives here. He owned a beautiful Smith bass, that his brother brought over with him on a visit.

I know someone who did manage to bring an instrument back without paying charges. They didn't fly direct, they flew via CDG in Paris, consequently their flight into the UK was from an EU country.

[quote name='noc' timestamp='1503406016' post='3357943'] It is coming from the states. So let me get this clear, anytime a guitarist/bassist fly’s to another country (let’s say out of the free EU zone) with their instrument because they have a gig or they just want to play it while they are wherever they are going, they have to pay vat on the outgoing and /or return flights? So people taking their acoustic with them on a beach holiday or the guy going to play at a small local festival abroad? Please dont misunderstand my tone, this news has worried me. [/quote] No, because it's already their bass. This is one you're importing.

[quote name='noc' timestamp='1503404767' post='3357923'] No guys, no customs because it will be flown in as luggage with my friend. That wont trigger customs will it?! Its a Prat. [/quote] So it's coming from the US? It will attract VAT and import duty. Prat's are nice basses by the way.

I've seen mention of political correctness. There's no such thing as political correctness. There's not saying or doing things that may upset someone. Surely something that should be inherent in a civilised society?

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1503389702' post='3357713'] Regarding the statue of General Lee, I'm against destroying historical monuments what ever they are. It's what Henry VIII and ISIL are doing. It's what they did to Sadam Hussain's statue and it was an indication of the worse things to come. Maybe an amended plaque be put up on the statue with a fuller explanation. Although I'm aware that the truth doesn't figure highly in the US at the moment. [/quote] They're not that historical. Most were erected on the 1920s and 1930s, not to commemorate, but as a sign of dominance over the black communities. This is the era of Jim Crow laws and terrible oppression. They still had segregation in many southern states.