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Following on from my other recent thread about wanting to add a passive tone control. I've bought a capacitor, so where do I get it soldered ? This is the inside of my control cavity. [attachment=218045:unnamed.jpg] It's a Bartolini preamp, I just want to add a capacitor to give the effect of a passive tone control permanently turned down, cutting the treble, I'll add that using the active preamp. Looking at the photo, the silver knob thing at the top is the volume control, the thing that the 2 black wires from pickups go to is the balance control, that's it hidden under the bundle of wires next to the blue thing. The blue thing controls the gain. Many thanks in anticipation of your replies .

Why not just leave it in, and not use it ? It's always there if you want it then.

[quote name='funkle' timestamp='1461612690' post='3036177'] Amps etc give us different flavours of ourselves, but IMO at the root of it is all down to the player, and in the main how they generate tone with their right hand. It's a tough lesson to take. [/quote] Different flavours of ourselves, the perfect description.

I've said this numerous times on here, and you always get the same replies poo-pooing the idea that how an instruments sounds can be so much down to the player. I've played other guys instruments when I was at uni, and they played my basses. So same instrument, cable, amp settings, different sound. Yet guys spend thousands and thousands on instruments and amps, when maybe they just need to learn how to use what they've already got ?

Saw this on Facebook earlier. Really nice. I did a lot of transcribing of his playing a couple of years ago, a truly great player. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qL4HpqlsjM&feature=share&list=PLA107F96FE39249D1&index=101"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qL4HpqlsjM&feature=share&list=PLA107F96FE39249D1&index=101[/url]

Good luck with it, hope it goes well.

Not a hoax, they just mentioned it on Classic FM.

Hoax.

It may also be the case that people see the tribute, who've never heard of the original artist, and even in the case of meatloaf like him, and buy his records. I actually thought meatloaf was dead.

Begs the question, why would you want to impersonate Meat Loaf in the first place ? Also Meat Loaf should maybe feel honoured that someone does . Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery.

[quote name='Muzz' timestamp='1460789522' post='3028696'] Bass played solo is like one of those blokes you see doing a marathon in a diving suit with lead boots. Novel and laudable to a point, but ultimately a futile exercise best achieved by another means. This was no exception. Except whatever he'd played it on, it would've been terrible*. * Actually, if he'd gone for it on the euphonium, it'd would've had a fascination all its own: parping and farting out the tune whilst leaping around...yeah, I'd have watched that... [/quote] Nonsense. Bass solo is as valid as any other instrument solo. It's all down to the player.

Just use Google or whatever, type in for example[i] Autumn leaves lead sheet[/i]. You'll find loads. Sometimes images is a good place to look.

I believe they use a long drill thing.

It's an MTD 6 string, I think the actual bass he used was for sale on here a couple of years ago.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1460923992' post='3029880'] Ah, OK; thanks for clarifying. Isn't the English language splendid, enabling us to communicate so well..? I'll drum up the opposite schema, for a low-pass filter, then. Back in a tick... [/quote] Thanks

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1460922794' post='3029865'] I understand the opposite; he wants a more trebly sound. I could be wrong, but it's still a bit ambiguous. Well, Ian..? More treble, or more bass..? [/quote] Less trebly 😊. I find it too trebly with the passive control up, and the active control up. It's kind of too brittle sounding.

[quote name='3below' timestamp='1460906473' post='3029670'] A key part of what you want hinges on the phrase "roll off the passive tone completely". This can be construed in one of two ways. Are you describing: a) turning the passive tone control fully anticlockwise (high frequencies removed, you have a bassier (muddier) tone)? or turning the passive tone control fully clockwise (high frequencies pass through, you have treble (clearer) tone)? As Dad3353 has described the solution is straightforward, With the answer a) or some component values can be calculated. SubsonicSimpleton's prototype box suggestion is also good until you have settled on final component values. [/quote] A standard passive tone control that you find on most basses. I like the sound of it turned fully off, and I use the treble control on the active circuit to add or decrease treble. My old Modulus had a John East circuit that was brilliant. It had a passive tone control, I had it set fully off all the time. Sadly I can't afford to change the Bartolini circuit, so I want to add the passive control to it. I have absolutely no knowledge of electronics, and burned myself last time I attempted to use a soldering thing. My brother is good with a soldering iron, and will do the necessary soldering once I can show him what to do.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1460850578' post='3029363'] Not the best worded request, but if I understand correctly, you're wanting to cut the bass with a fixed, passive, high-pass circuit. Here's one, very simple, taken from a fuzz-box schema... You may have to play about with the values to get the exact degree of tone adjustment that you require; on the other hand it's about as 'cheap and cheerful' as one could wish. Your brother will know where to solder this in (undo the o/p jack and insert this circuit...). Have fun; hope this helps. Subject to correction, completion and/or contradiction from others. [/quote] I basically want to add a passive tone control to the bass, but keep it inside the cavity, keeping it rolled off. Thanks for your reply.

My Roscoe 6 string fretless has a Bartolini 3 band active preamp installed in it. I like to roll off the passive tone completely, and just use the high frequency tone control on the preamp. The Bartolini doesn't have a passive tone control though, so I want to add one. I don't want to drill another hole on the bass though, I was thinking of just adding the capacitor thing inside the bass, it doesn't matter that it will be totally off all the time. Where would the capacitor thing be soldered, and what sort of capacitor should I use ? My brother will be doing the soldering for me.

As I see it, he's asking for a contribution toward the band's fee. It's his venue, I don't see how he's being underhand, or dishonest. He's given the money, plus some from him to the band.

So he's getting a contribution toward your fee ? I could see your point if you were doing the gig for nothing, and he was collecting. It's a bit like charging people to come in, but the charge is voluntary, and pay what you like. If venues in France are like they are over here, then whatever your fee is, it's maybe quite a chunk out of his takings.

[quote name='BassTractor' timestamp='1460754292' post='3028595'] That's not a very good composition though, I'm sorry to say. I'm happy you found something you could use for this. I felt that was not a given at all, as you guys were granted terribly little time for the project. So you've handed them in, or was the final date in May? [/quote] I hand in on the 25th, I've just got the write up to finish for this, and for my 'normal' one .

Just a follow up to a thread that I started a few weeks ago asking about apps to create some graphic scores for my MMus course. I ended up downloading something called Xdraw from the app store. It's not brilliant, but it did the job. For those that are interested, here's something that I've done. It's in 4 parts, and is printed on clear acetate, one part per sheet. This means that the parts can be combined, and they can be orientated to suit. [attachment=217108:unnamed-1.jpg][attachment=217109:unnamed-2.jpg][attachment=217110:unnamed.jpg]

That's really nice, very much my kind of music.