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There's also a subtle difference between being a bass player or guitarist, and being a musician. I can paint a room but I'm not a decorator, I once put a plug on an amp, but I'm certainly not an electrician. Being a musician encompasses so much more than being able to play a given bass line or guitar part.

[quote name='Chooglin stu' timestamp='1385320443' post='2286901'] Wel am 28 and av been playing from the age of 15 ... I can't read any music and if you asked me to play a scale I wouldn't know where the hell to start lol but there's nothing I can't play ! I just need to hear a song and I pick it out and I always play the songs properly and miss nothing , my brothers the same , he plays guitar and together we play in a David bowie tribute band , so in my opinion you just need to have a good ear to be a good musician [/quote] But you may have a problem if you don't get to hear the song before hand, or if the band says "nah, that didn't work let's try it in Bb instead of C" I don't remember the last time I had a rehearsal before a gig. Most of mine are either reading scores or playing from a real book or other chart. I don't get to hear the song beforehand, I doubt the audience would be too pleased if the band announced "we're just gonna run through this song so's the bass player can hear his part".

There is actually 2 Paul McCartneys someone I know was recording in a studio where he was also recording. McCartney was stood talking to someone when McCartney arrived - he uses a body double as security. The double tends to arrive publicly and the real one arrives privately. I believe he's done this since Lennon was murdered.

[quote name='AntLockyer' timestamp='1385311847' post='2286726'] Stop eating grain and processed vegetable fats. [/quote] You know I used to, not necessarily think these things were a waste of time, but I was certainly sceptical about them. I've been vegetarian for years. I stopped eating all processed foods about 3 months ago, I only eat wholemeal grains and rice, pasta etc. I buy ingredients (cheaper anyway), and cook my own stuff. I feel healthier than I have for ages.

[quote name='endorka' timestamp='1385292487' post='2286413'] Audrey Riley? It is indeed a beautiful arrangement. I wrote a couple of string arrangements for the new album, and several more for our recent show at the Glasgow Barrowlands with the Scottish Chamber Orchestra. The magnificent work she other noted arrangers such as Sally Herbert & Paul Leonard Morgan had done for Horse was both inspiring and a little terrifying at the same time :-) Jennifer [/quote] Yeah, Audrey . I'll have to check out the new album.

[quote name='Jellyfish' timestamp='1385294432' post='2286437'] Unlike most people I know (who say that 'Images & Words' can't be beaten) I discovered them quite late and still think 'Black Clouds and Silver Linings' is one of their best albums. I thought 'A Dramatic Turn of Events' was a brilliant album considering Mike Portnoy had nothing to do with the drums although I have to admit, I feel like their newest album would have been better with Portnoy on it. 'Illumination Theory' and 'Behind the Veil' are two awesome tracks off the new album. My new custom bass is also a bit John Myung inspiried... [/quote] Would be interested to see your Myung inspired bass !

[quote name='lazybones' timestamp='1385244774' post='2286146'] what is the point of buying a jazz or precision if it aint a fender.if a manufacture aint got the ability to redesign the guitar they aint worth the money,,,,its like buying a rollls Royce that looks exactly like a rolls Royce but is supposed to be better,if you want to buy a guitar if that looks like a jazz its got to be a fender jazz [/quote] Why has it got to be Fender ? The idea of a super jazz, is that it's well, a super jazz : ) Usually with the buyers choice of pickups and electronics, and almost always better made And it's not that the builder hasn't got the ability to build something different, it's that the buyer wants a jazz or P bass, but with their choice of pickups etc, and the better build quality, and maybe just slightly different neck profile or fingerboard radius. Maybe they intend to use it without the pickguard, something you can't do on a new fender because of the routing holes all over the front.

You've gotta love Jordan Rudess's beard

I've only recently discovered them, and I've set about buying up their back catalogue, you can get boxed sets with 4 or 5 albums pretty cheaply on amazon. I prefer the newer stuff, I certainly prefer the new drummer to Portnoy. My favourite albums so far are black clouds, octavarium, systematic chaos and dream theater. The new live at luna park DVD is really good. I'm guessing that I'll maybe get into the older stuff as I listen to it more.

I wonder why she said that about the major 3rd ? If you want to show that something you're playing over is major then play the major 3rd, or more importantly if what you're playing over is from mixolydian or dominant 7th, then it's the major 3rd that you would play to emphasise what it is.

I'd never heard of Horse until a couple of months ago. My one tutor did the string arrangement for her song 'Careful'. She has an amazing voice, and what a cool name too.

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1385130747' post='2284800'] I agree with what you're saying, but I also believe that these sort of websites also have a place. After all what's the difference between learning from this type of website and learning something from Tabs? When you're just starting out you want to play a tune, not spend weeks learning scales, and if your told you have to learn scales first then the chances are you'll get demoralised and not get beyond those first few weeks. PS: Sounds a bit like Paul Wolf's "How to play Bass" website [/quote] Kind of disagree, you can be learning scales, fingerboard notes, chords, triads etc, at the same time as learning songs, you don't have to do the things as separate parts. Personally I'd prefer to learn to paint, than just be told that this colour goes there and this one here etc, painting by numbers analogy again, sorry .

Maybe flares and cheese

Write out a list of everything associated with the period, disco is flared trousers to me, so maybe 'flares and *******'. Insert something rhyming with flares and that is 80's in the space

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1385113227' post='2284534'] This all assumes that there is a defined running order. The band leader (singer) in my lot has a scruffy bit of paper with all the songs on it we are ever likely to do and just calls them out as he feels fit through the gig. If we were all on ipads or physical sheet music we'd still have that delay whilst we all found the next song and loaded it up. I've discussed having a defined running order so at least we know what's coming next but it's never happened. Of course now we have a delay whilst the guitarist sets up his 'sound' for a particular song once he knows what we are actually playing next [/quote] In that scenario I'd just have the charts in alphabetical order, that's why my app is handy, you can very quickly move the pages about. I totally agree that knowing the songs is by far the best solution, but the OP is asking about digital charts.

I know what I'd rather carry around The cool thing too is you can set up the pages in my one app (goodnotes), so they're in the order that you want them in, so they can correspond to your gig's set list. Just swipe across the screen and you're set for the next number And you can add notations and highlight bits etc.

I could be really pedantic and point out that Abm7 doesn't technically have either D# or F#

It looks like there's writing or something on it.

[quote name='Lowender' timestamp='1385076117' post='2284336'] Wow, everybody's panties are a bit tight today. Hey, I stand by what I said. I answered your question and you're breaking my balls? Take the advice or don't. And yes, B has the same notes as Ab7 -- both have B, D# and F#. But the Abm7 has an Ab root. So if you play a B with an Ab in the bass, it's same chord. Next time, instead of trying for the snarky come-back, try listening. You might learn something. [/quote] Ab or G# being the relative minor to B major has the same notes. A B triad with an Ab bass note would be an Am7 chord. A bit of a condescending reply

What's the point is that website ? It's kinda like a painting by numbers thing kids have, sure you get a painting at the end that you've done, but there's nothing creative in it, it's not art. Watch where I put my fingers and you do the same, and pluck the same string at the right time and you too will play whatever bass line. Of course if the band you're in do it in a different key then you're kinda screwed Mah, even if you can't be ***rd to learn all the notes on your fretboard at least learn the first five frets worth, and how hard is it to learn the fingering pattern of a minor or a major triad ? Do that which seriously would only take a week or so doing an hour a day, then there are hundreds of websites where you can get chords to songs, and work out your own bass line. A bass is normally tuned E A D G The first 5 notes on the E string are F, F#, G, G# and A A string notes are Bb, B, C, C# and D D string notes are Eb, E, F, F# and G G string notes are Ab, A, Bb, B and C If you learn that then it'll be very easy and quick to learn the others when you're ready to. A C major triad is played starting on the 3rd fret on the A string ( root - C), then 2nd fret on the D string (major 3rd - E) and then 5th fret on the D string (5th - G). Simply move that pattern about anywhere on the bass and you be playing a major triad of whatever the first note is. A C minor triad is played again starting 3rd fret on the A string, the only note different is the second one which is flattened or lowered by a fret to become a minor 3rd, or Eb in the C minor triad, the next note is the same. Again move that fingering pattern about anywhere and you again produce a minor triad for whatever note you start on. It honestly just takes a very short time to learn that, probably the same time it takes to learn a song from the website mentioned.