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[quote name='Deep Thought' timestamp='1374341377' post='2147842'] I don't think it's Zep's best either, in fact Plant is on record as saying he'd rather be remembered for 'Kashmir' than 'Stairway'. I like it once it gets going, the first half is all a bit 'Hey Nonny Nonny' for my liking. [/quote] I prefer it to Kashmir by a long, long way (it and No Quarter are my favourite Zep tracks), but I don't really think either opinion has much to do with the video, which to me is about the band's reaction to the performance; a fabulous thing to watch.

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1374321465' post='2147534'] I know xilddx has already endorsed this but I think it's worth repeating. This, surely, is what music at its best is all about. [/quote] Indeed.

[quote name='Bassman Sam' timestamp='1374265389' post='2147110'] Not just me then. [/quote] Or me....*sniff*

I recently bought a used - and very, very cheap - Korean Squier P off ebay and it's blown me away. I wanted to try another P (I've owned 1 and used several in the distant past) without spending too much because of my forearm contour issues, but for some reason this doesn't bother me unless I spend a long time playing fingerstyle (unlike a Jazz, which is agony); I usually play with a plectrum anyway. It's got meat, potatoes AND gravy. Although being veggie maybe I should use a different analogy. Seriously, I love it. It's everything I can never get a Jazz to be and quite frankly sits in the band better than 99% of the boutiques I've had, many of which have cost between 10 and twenty times as much.

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1374338963' post='2147815'] Mr Teazie Weazie was one of the great hair stylists but you don't get mass fanboi attacks when his name comes up. [/quote] Ah, so [i]that[/i] was the model for all those sinister Magician posters....

The problem I have with him is that none of his music moves me in any way. Teen Town? It doesn't make me feel anything at all and because I tend to listen to music more from an emotional standpoint than a technical one (which is why most fusion - which I used to love - now bores me to death) it just does nothing for me. Before someone points to Joni Mitchell, I have both the Shadows and Light dvd and cd and quite honestly don't enjoy either; I'm not a fan of her music. FWIW I was around at the time too and the big 2 were Stanley and Jaco, possibly in that order. IME Jaco only came to eclipse Stan in terms of impact and popularity after he died. But IMO there is no denying Jaco was [i]one[/i] of the great bass stylists.

[quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1374224236' post='2146545'] Just to make it clear, I am not questioning Jaco's talent or influence (in certain genres at least), and whether I like what he did or not is inconsequential. It's just the perceived attitude ( and I know that that no-one here has actually said this as such) that he can never be 'bettered' (whatever that means) which leaves me puzzled, and strangely saddened. He may be have been very good and influential, but he was a step on the road of bass playing - not the end of the journey. [/quote] +1. And this goes for all the greats so far, not just Jaco.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1374221338' post='2146500'] Most people have no idea what a bassist is ... and why on earth should they? [/quote] Indeed.

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1374193243' post='2146414'] Please tell that you were joking. Please. [/quote] I think it may depends what circles you move in. The only people I know who've heard of Jaco have done so because they're either already jazz fans or I told them. Most people I know have no idea who he was.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1374179577' post='2146251'] Well , the thing is that Jaco and the other artists you mention were radical departures within their given discipline , and changed their medium forever . It is possible for all kinds of fancy Dan bass players to come along with amazing chops and technique , but so far most have struggled to make the impact that Jaco did . I wouldn't put Jaco in the same bracket as Mozart or Shakespear for various reasons ( I could explain why , if you like ) , but in his own modest way he was a genius of sorts , but not because of his technique . His gift was that he thought about and interpreted music differently to other people , and happened to do so via the medium of the bass guitar . Like just about every genius you can think of , Jaco was unconventional , a radical , and unlike anything that had come before him on the bass guitar . He wasn't alone in that by any means - there were other fantastically gifted players of that era - but at his best he was brilliant in his own right . He was versatile too , despite having such a distinctive signature style . He was a World- class jazz bassist and accomplished soloist , but his work as an accompanist in various genres is equally accomplished and shows great maturity and sensitivity to the overall musical picture rather than just his own role in it . Regardless of your own personal taste ( which you are fully entitled to , I hasten to add) Jaco was the real deal , the complete package . I am not one of Jaco's slavish followers by any means , and I couldn't even say he was the player I myself have enjoyed or or directly tried to emulate the most , but his stature on the instrument is undeniable . [/quote] +1, and I'm not really much of a fan at all, of either his playing or his music.

[quote name='KevB' timestamp='1373572261' post='2139246'] If I'd bought it I'd be posting the pics to the Ric Resources site straight off asking how that sort of deterioration in a couple of years could happen and what Ric were going to do about it. Didn't realise the wood was that dark underneath, I thought they'd all look 'mapleglo' without the top coat. [/quote] The Ric Resource Forum isn't the official Ric site (despite what many think), so that's probably a bit pointless. Overpainting isn't an issue; Fender used to do it all the time. However the peeling off is, although if they were sold as such then there is indeed not much in the way of story really.

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1373551638' post='2138956'] have to say, much as I love JJ's playing, No More Heroes is a horrible bassline, IMO of course [/quote] Not with that sound it isn't.

[quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1373485820' post='2138231'] Guess it depends what you term Punk? The Ramones, Clash, Ruts to name a few had some decent basslines [/quote] If you include Stranglers and The Jam then those plus the Damned is game over for me. Unless you include Motorhead of course.

[quote name='Stan_da_man' timestamp='1373112965' post='2133828'] Because not every venue has decent monitors and not all of us can afford IEM. [/quote] I dream of being this concise.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1372944486' post='2131932'] Let's get this bit out the way first, ok? Digital modeling - Boss GT10B, POD XT/X3, and active DI's like SansAmp, Hartke VXL, etc, if used properly, can and do sound indistinguishable from an amp and cab rig in your FoH sound. You need to take this for granted if you don't believe me. I'll go one further and say the same is true for studio recordings but that's another story. The only advantage of using and amp and cab that I can work out from what people say on here is that it can make you trousers flap on stage, which to me is not a sensible reason at all. Most monitors are capable of pumping out some good bass for your reference. Quality digi modeling/effects units and active DIs offer (over amp and cab rigs) huge versatility and portability, consistent sound quality with most stage and room characteristics, reliability, simplicity of deployment, massive cost savings, less prone to damage, don't need to keep changing them in your quest for TONE, geezers in other bands never ask to borrow them for their set, you can't stand a pint on them .. Need I go on? It's beyond me why anyone would have the pain and worry of cab placement problems in auditoriums, needing gramma pads, transport issues, bad backs, lending them to other bands, very little versatility, easily damaged, buying and selling to find YOUR TONE, upsizing, downsizing, two rigs for different size gigs, getting them up and down narrow stairs ... So why do you REALLY insist on having amps and cabs? Fear of digital sound being unpredictable or sounding crap? Need a big old rig behind you to feel safe? Ignorance of going direct? Need a massive bass sound on stage? Can't be bothered to f*** about learning how to programme patches? Nostalgia? Inertia? ... I'm genuinely interested to know. [/quote] For much of my 'career' I've played gigs in venues where there is no (or minimal) pa and no monitoring whatsoever and you're not being paid enough to hire anything decent, so the rig has been used for backlining - otherwise known as trying to be heard over the drummer - while the vocals go through whatever pa you have. I'd say the majority of venues I've played in over 30 years fall into this category (mostly Oop North Nige, where we have to live in cardboard boxes & eat gravel off t'street ). It was different in my London days, where we always had/hired full (and expensive) pas. Thankfully these days I play in an acoustic band where the stage volume is negligible and you can hear yourself coming off the front even without monitors (although we do normally carry a small monitor now). The majority of gigs I just use my Sansamp, occasionally resorting to my Hartke Kickback 10 if absolutely necessary. Either way it's bliss and I'm in no hurry to go back. I've never been one for stage volume; how people do smallish venues with 8x10s and similar is utterly beyond me. I played the Marquee in a rock band with a 150W amp and only had it on 3.

[quote name='AndyTravis' timestamp='1372968916' post='2132345'] Hi mate, it's ace, it feels loads better (to me). The squarer edge might just work for you. Drop me a pm when you're heading in, and I'll have it with me. [/quote] Andy, you're a gent and a star . Glad you're enjoying it.

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1372873808' post='2131064'] I always worry I'm going to see this topic somewhere. [/quote] Me too. Strangely I was only talking about the likelihood of something going pear-shaped about 2 hrs ago. Lemmy taught me to play via Space Ritual. He was my earliest and biggest influence, although I don't play like him now. I've met him twice and he was a gent. All the best to you Lem!

[quote name='AndyTravis' timestamp='1370261978' post='2098185'] Had been debating a Stingray Classic or a Sabre. I ended up settling on this. [/quote] Andy, next time I'm in Manc I need to try that if it's around! Been gassing for a MM - love the Classics - but because of my worsening arm issues need to know whether the body will be ok for me and I haven't been able to find one close to home. How have you been finding it compared to the normal 'Ray?

[quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1372705162' post='2128905'] Confirming this rare outburst of subjectivity, I rather enjoyed them - though I was one of the masses on Twitter wondering about his accent. He can't be seeing his mam much talking like that [/quote] Cue "there's a guy in the Arctic Monkeys thinks he's Elvis...."

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1372704265' post='2128875'] Ah, we have a music snob amongst us, who believes that simple songs are not worthy and that people who don't understand musical complexity have no opinions worth listening to. Well, it's a point of view I suppose. [/quote]

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1372698546' post='2128763'] At least you are airing your views mate, that's a good thing, and if they are contentious, you'll get some sh*t thrown your way, us gobsh*tes get plenty of sh*t Don't take it personally. The Arctics are really good, but they're working class aren't they? Not now of course, they are rich, living an upper class life [/quote] The Emperor's New Mo..., sorry, Arctic Monkeys? I watched them with an open mind and hated them. Are they sh*te? Only in my opinion. I really enjoyed Kenny Rogers though.