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[quote name='Stacker' post='777167' date='Mar 17 2010, 11:38 AM']The CS I had was a cracker. Full of oomph and a lot louder than any other Rick Ive had. Am down to two 4001s now and awaiting an FG V63 from Ishibashi. Still need to shift this one.[/quote] My CSs were powerful but I wasn't happy with the tone, they didn't have the detail and openness I prefer. Lovely bass BTW! If only it had full-widths....
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I think the vermilion board on the CS gives it a different sound; I was discussing this tonight with our guitarist, who has played alongside almost every Rick I've ever owned. He feels the same; they seem harder and honkier than the V63. I know some people can't tell the difference but having had a friend play my CS and V63 and say exactly that when they sounded like chalk and cheese to me suggests I may have rather more sensitive ears. Having said that, obviously each instrument will sound somewhat different and I know people who've tried a few CSs before finding the "right" one.
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Fender Road Worn Jazz Fiesta Red approx 3 weeks old SOLD!!!!!
4000 posted a topic in Basses For Sale
Ok, this turned out to be an unsuccessful buy for me, bought approx 3 weeks ago brand new. Great bass, the nearest Jazz I've played (and I've played a lot) to the genuine '64 that was in the Gallery last year, and that was over £4k. As many will know I don't usually go a bundle on Jazz basses but this is as nice a one as I've played and really does capture that vintage vibe. I was sold on the looks, general feel and vintage-style tone; there's a certain job that Jazzes do very well (JPJ and Gary Thain for me!) and I fancied one in my arsenal. I a/b-d this against another Road Worn and this was far better. Sadly I convinced myself to ignore the issues I have with the forearm contour on Fenders, but a very painful rehearsal tonight, whatever height I played the bass at, has convinced me of the error of my ways and so I'm parting with it only 3 weeks in. My loss means someone will get a virtually new bass (that has been confirmed to have no issues!) at a knock-down price. Re the "no issues" thing above; when I bought it and got it home it turned out there was an issue with the trussrod, which was maxed out. It immediately went back to Fender who changed the neck and did a full set up (and apparently a light fret dress) on it. Everything is fine now; neck straight as a die. Comes with gigbag & documents (which haven't even been opened). Looking for £699 firm, and not really looking for trades with the possible exception of something interesting Rickenbacker-wise (with cash difference from me). Here are some pics: -
[quote name='cocco' post='769476' date='Mar 9 2010, 05:32 PM']That's a fair point. I would really love to own this bass. But if I'm spending that kind of money I'm gonna wanna play it first and it's the best part of a day away. I've never played a ric as early as this. Not that I've ever disliked one either but it's big money. But f*** me this is nice [/quote] FWIW I've had about 9 Ricks and for me the earlier ones are best. Never got on with my 2xCSs or my V63 as well as my '72 and '73 4001 basses and my old '73 4000. The '99 (?) 4003s8 was pretty killer though.
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Making Rickenbacker More Playable - Gig In Two Hours!
4000 replied to faceman's topic in Bass Guitars
[quote name='GreeneKing' post='771223' date='Mar 11 2010, 07:53 AM']Errr, maybe they don't. There is two of them on the 4003 though. Many Ric owners use a neck with no relief but I always preferred a slight amount. One flat on each rod usually does it. Peter[/quote] The 4001 rods need to be adjusted differently. You have to set the neck by hand and then tighten the nuts to hold it in place; DO NOT adjust the rods to move the neck. However the 4003s rods are adjusted like normal rods, except that there are 2. As many will know, I'm a no relief guy. -
[quote name='Bloodaxe' post='769440' date='Mar 9 2010, 05:04 PM']100% If any of my basses need work that I cannot do myself, The Gallery gets the job. Pete.[/quote] +1000
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[quote name='retroman' post='766278' date='Mar 6 2010, 05:51 PM']IMHO, Lemmy has got the most distinctive bass sound of any bass player. Some of it is actually quite hard to play as well! I think the best bass sounds he ever got was either on the "Ace Of Spades" album, or on the song "Bomber", which I think was an 8 string Hagstrom. Come to think of it, the bass sound on the album "Overnight Sensation" was killer as well.[/quote] Lemmy's tone and approach were my initial inspiration as a player, and I love both to this day. I once recognized Ace of Spades by the first note played on an underpowered jukebox in a packed and deafening pub. That's good enough for me. He can sing too, he just has an equally "distinctive" voice. The 8 string Hagstrom was only used on the track Poison BTW. For me his best tone is probably the Golden Years Live EP, but it's all good.
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[quote name='MythSte' post='763502' date='Mar 3 2010, 11:31 PM']Tone off and some imaginative EQ'ing. Not dissimilar to the classic Trace Elliot Pre Shape tone if you ask me.[/quote] I'd tend to agree. I can get a similar tone using a R W through my Ashdown.
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30th Birthday - Bass purchase/order to celebrate!
4000 replied to Musicman20's topic in Bass Guitars
[quote name='JTUK' post='760664' date='Mar 1 2010, 12:55 PM']Happy birthday in 4 days time Gareth, You know what I am going to say....but I'll say it anyway. Commision a Jazz5 from Sei, pick your core woods and finish and I think you'll go for paint. East pre and Barts. I also think you would prefer a dark wood board, so get that blocked and bound. So, basically, a vintage vibe with a modern bite to the sound. If you are ever down my way, you can try mine. Fine tuning stuff would be to run the pre off 18v which I think is better, which pups, soaps or singles looking design and the colour of hardware which should be chrome. Maybe a subtle flame or birdseye neck, not too OTT, Side LEDS an option, but no one really uses them and I have no idea how long the battery is supposed to last anyway. Forget the money, you'll not go too far over it, IMV[/quote] From your description +1, but it's your call. I'm biased. -
[quote name='rodl2005' post='761465' date='Mar 2 2010, 07:31 AM']I don't care WHERE they're made as long as they DO what they're s'posed to do. & the RW series seem to do just that really well[/quote] +1.
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Miss my Alembic Triple O a great deal. Also miss my Sei Flamboyant 4, my old Pedulla MVP and my Rick 8 string.
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[quote name='Buzz' post='682435' date='Dec 12 2009, 06:55 PM']£899 for a MIM? For that price you'd get a current '09 MIA. Granted, it wouldn't have the relic job, but it would be a better bass and also hold it's value more.[/quote] I prefer them to any MIA I've played; I even prefer them to the Custom Shop Relics (athough they're not [i]quite[/i] as tasty looking). The ones I recently tried were pretty much on a par with the real 60s basses I've played. Oh, and they're nitro finished.
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I was in there last week; they had nothing in worth buying and I was really shocked. I guess this explains it. Napper is indeed a top bloke and I hope he's got something sorted; he probably wouldn't remember me but we've had many a pleasant chat in our time.
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[quote name='XB26354' post='756623' date='Feb 24 2010, 11:18 PM']if you don't have £5000+, don't sweat because you can get what you want and need for a lot less...[/quote] But if you want a Fodera then only a Fodera will do. It doesn't matter that another bass may play as well, sound as good; it won't look the same and it won't be the same.
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[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='754641' date='Feb 23 2010, 07:31 AM']I'd completely agree but the reason for that is Jon uses very VERY stiff maple in the necks. Having said that, my bass is incredibly responsive and sounds HUGE. Each note leaps off the fingerboard...there are NO deadspots. So long as the pickups are nice and flat tonally and your rig is also relatively flat that means superb projection on stage where softer basses might sound woolly. So might be that Shuker basses are just better live than in the bedroom/studio.[/quote] So not much use if you never have everything flat then?
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How Can You Justify Spending £5,350 on a New Bass??
4000 replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='silddx' post='757476' date='Feb 25 2010, 07:33 PM']Ed Roman is a bit of a twat by all accounts[/quote] I've met Ed. Imagine Gimli the Dwarf but twice the size and with [i]attitude[/i]. I wouldn't be in a hurry to meet him again. -
[quote name='RhysP' post='650169' date='Nov 9 2009, 10:06 PM']I've got more regrets than anything else...... [/quote] Me too... (cue the insane laughter of the damned )
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Ignore everyone (including me) and try them yourself. Only you can decide. As most will know I love my Rics, don't mind Rays but didn't like the Warwick $$ I tried at all, even though I had really wanted/expected to. Everyone will tell you something different, and there may be ergonomic issues that only apply to you.
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How Can You Justify Spending £5,350 on a New Bass??
4000 replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='silddx' post='753904' date='Feb 22 2010, 03:04 PM'] But this is a forum, we should be learning from eachother's experiences, insight, and knowledge. Sometimes one has to provoke discussion. If I have an opinion, it does not mean it can't be changed. But to post "Mmm, that Gus G3 looks a bit strange, and it is rather expensive, would you buy one, Dear? I don't think I would either. More tea?" isn't really going to be much of a thread is it? There's been some good discussion going on with some excellent points being made in interesting ways, even the way it has this sub-thread going on is interesting. Cheers, N[/quote] You see I'd much prefer the "more tea?" approach, which I personally think works fine. As long as there were crumpets too, with lashings of butter. -
How Can You Justify Spending £5,350 on a New Bass??
4000 replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
One thing I should add is that I studied fine art. The cost of materials and labour bear no relation to the cost of the finished product in art, and that's the way I think with regards to high-end guitars. Like EBS freak says, if you don't like, it don't buy it. -
How Can You Justify Spending £5,350 on a New Bass??
4000 replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='silddx' post='753635' date='Feb 22 2010, 11:54 AM']Three things .. Just because I word things in a slightly provocative manner does not mean I am being negative, and the implication that "there is something wrong with people who are happy to pay that amount of money for something they like" was just a bit of banter. You said, live and let live, I used the Mugabe reference in relation to that. Nothing to do with spending £5k on a GUS. I am terribly sorry you have facial neuralgia, that must be a real pisser. You'll probably find most of us have something wrong with us, or have some emotional stresses. I myself have have had ectopic eczema since birth (bad enough to have been studied by the Royal Free) and have just developed dry eye syndrome which is rather annoying. There are things that make up for these things, like buying an Oly White and dark tort vintage Fender Jazz or being in posession of a monster penis.[/quote] Maybe any tongue-in-cheekness doesn't come across (to me at least) in writing, if there is some there. Either way I tend not to be someone who sees the point in wording things provocatively simply because I have no wish to be knowingly provocative. To me it's pointless. If it's not to you, then we simply have a difference in how we like to approach things. To me it's a trait based in negativity; maybe you feel otherwise. Maybe part of the problem is that every day I come into contact with people who think there is something wrong with "person x" and they actually mean it, which is why I don't like to see it in places I come for relaxation and positivity. That's maybe a personal issue. I used the term live and let live as a reference to respecting the rights of others to differ from yourself, but you know that. The implication of your Mugabe comment was directly related to my opinions on the topic under discussion. FWIW, many people seem to think that if you respect a person's right to have a different opinion to your own then you effectively don't have an opinion of your own and are therefore sitting on the fence. This isn't the case. Saying "I don't like bass (a) but others might, it's just my opinion" isn't sitting on the fence. You've expressed an opinion, but have qualified it. Its not negative or aggressive. To say "bass (a) is crap and people who like it are wrong "is both negative and aggressive. The line about the neuralgia (although true and actually not helping my mood) was a joke. Geddit? See, it works both ways. And of course I'm aware many of us have something wrong with us, I used to work in the NHS. Sorry to hear about your issues BTW. I do have a monster penis though. Its in a jar in the shed. -
How Can You Justify Spending £5,350 on a New Bass??
4000 replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='silddx' post='753398' date='Feb 21 2010, 11:41 PM']Well, sorry, but it's attitude and debate that have elevated us from the stone age mate. You're having a crack at my thread, or me, you are not living and letting live are you. Perhaps you are happy to let Mugabe live. Who knows? I just find your attitude today a bit arsey and not conducive to healthy debate. Normally I admire you greatly, today you are sounding a bit, well ..[/quote] As I said, it's a strange irony that in trying to "live and let live" you can get the hump at people not doing which effectively puts you in the same place. One of life's more trying paradoxes. What annoyed me about aspects of this thread (and some other recent ones) isn't that you can't understand why someone would spend that much, but the implication in several posts that there is something wrong with people who are happy to pay that amount of money for something they like, which doesn't come across to me as "healthy debate". Mugabe? Not quite the same as spending £5k on a GUS, really. I think Toasted would have something to say about that sort of argument...... As for being a bit arsey, well I have had facial neuralgia for over 3 months now so maybe my patience has worn a bit thin. I'd happily pay £5k to get rid of that. -
How Can You Justify Spending £5,350 on a New Bass??
4000 replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
Good, cause I can't either. Vent over. EDIT: I'm generally pissed off with everyone who can't live and let live. Of course there's a monumental irony in there but hey, that's life. -
How Can You Justify Spending £5,350 on a New Bass??
4000 replied to xilddx's topic in General Discussion
[quote name='silddx' post='753357' date='Feb 21 2010, 11:03 PM']OK Einstein, why don't you stick to the Theory and Technique section then. To me it's interesting from an economic and human behaviour perspective. If you don't, and think it's puerile, fine, that's cool, but don't start belittling threads like this, most of us don't have your insight and intelligence.[/quote] That's really funny, because its [i]you[/i] who are belittling people's intelligence by continually posting negative threads like this which are (as I've already stated) basically "I think (insert x) is bollocks and everyone who thinks otherwise is a tosser". Rather than think " I don't really get it but it doesn't really matter" you seem intent on having a go at people. Everyone is free to make there own decisions and what they do with there money is up to them. I doubt I'd pay that much for a GUS but that doesn't make people who would wrong. Just because somebody sees worth in something that you don't it doesn't make them an idiot. In fact on current evidence I'd say that makes them a f*****g genius. -
[quote name='Delberthot' post='753141' date='Feb 21 2010, 07:38 PM']its all done with smoke and mirrors In my opinion Rickenbackers are overpriced - terrible bridges that are fiddly at best to adjust, bridge surrounds that lacerate your fingers, 2 truss rods that work differently to nearly every other bass in existence and that most people are scared to touch, uncomfortable slab body, the midnight blue ones a couple of years ago had a finish that ran underneath the top varnish onto the binding. That and they sound nothing like they do on the records. The price has increased by about 50% in the past couple of years and you have to wait however long now to get one. Doesn't stop me wanting a C64, V63 or the daddy - the CS, though [/quote] Overpriced? A through-neck bass with pretty much all the parts made in house, with a bound body and fingerboard and inlays that are rather more complex than dots, with a time-consuming finishing process and a unique feel and sound, and yet it's cheaper than a custom shop Fender which is basically two simple bits of wood bolted together. The rest is purely personal. I'll agree that the bridge is an arse to adjust but if the surround lacerates your fingers don't play there or use a pick! I find the body far more comfortable than a typical Fender so that is also purely personal. As for not sounding like they do on record, you obviously have no idea (as many people seem not to) how to eq them, or it's simply your technique. "I bought a Jazz bass but sound nothing like Jaco. Why?" FWIW, I've had 2 CSs and a V63 and I much prefer my '72 and '73 (and my old '73 4000) to any of them.