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I remember them being on Jools(?). They’re great.

Sounds great either way to me.

Like you wouldn’t believe.😉

How very dare you!😂

I love Manowar. 🤘🏻

Our music lessons at school used to be like something out of “Please Sir!” (hopefully some here may be old enough to remember that). Our music teacher, who was a pleasant older lady, spent pretty much every lesson trying and failing to control the rowdier elements of the class (not me, I hasten to add). Most lessons started with someone putting a bucket full of paper on the door so it fell on her as she came in, and then deteriorated from there. We all found it endlessly entertaining. She never even attempted to actually teach us anything about music. 😉

Been there, done that. 😉

I was there very early ‘80s. Ironically Tracey Emin was at our place, although on a different course.

You were very lucky. I came out of art school far less creative than when I went in, albeit with greater knowledge. As for music, that bore no relation at all to our studies, and was frowned upon. Even photography was frowned upon. I suspect you’re a good deal younger than me though and things have likely changed a lot. Or maybe we were just unlucky.😉 We did get George Hardie for 2 weeks as a guest tutor though. Lovely man.

Yes, you can be trained, up to a point. But formal education, as touched on elsewhere, can equally have the opposite effect. I too went to art school, learnt history and developed my technique (although that was more down to working at it all day every day than being taught), but I had the creativity slowly bled from me by blinkered tutors, and I wasn’t strong enough at the time to be able to assert myself. It led to me dropping out and almost giving up art entirely, which up to that point was, IMO, the thing that defined me.

I think this is an important point. Some of the most musical people I know haven’t the faintest idea about theory, in terms of what things are called etc., but they know what things sound like. Not knowing what a particular mode or scale - or even note, at the most extreme - is called in no way affects your understanding of how those sounds can be used, in the same way that a painter doesn’t have to know that green is called green or red is called red in order to paint an incredible picture. This seems to get lost in a lot of these debates. Still, I remember having a discussion with a friend who is also a musician and us coming to the conclusion that we understood music in a completely different way to each other. To him it was maths. To me, it was more like painting with sound.

Surely the important bit is that you enjoy it when listening to it, not whether you can remember it? One of my favourite bands is Tangerine Dream. They’ve done something like 160 albums. Even if I got to listen to them all (highly unlikely) I’d never remember them all, particularly given the nature of the music. But I love listening to TD.

I play guitar too, but both bass and guitar-wise, whilst I can and have played many instruments, my preferences are for certain things. Can play and prefer to play are completely different things, IMO.

Whilst this is true to a degree, assuming you are sensitive to such things - I am - you will start to identify common factors. Over many years playing I’d wondered why most modern instruments never feel quite right to me. Eventually, I realised that I don’t really like basses with a relatively flat fingerboard radius. And when I actually started measuring the radius of the necks I liked, it was consistently 7.25, regardless of the actual width of the neck.

Listened to Ashore yesterday, amongst others. Very powerful.

I can, depending on what else I’m doing, do both, as I’ve proved with lockdown. It’s quite possible to actually listen to the music if the task you’re doing is pretty mindless and fairly repetitive. If the piece of work requires the brain to be fully engaged then I have to turn the music off.

I’d got to a similar stage before lockdown, not really listening to music more than say half an hour a day (although there’s plenty of modern music I like and listen to - you just have to put in the effort to keep your mind open). Since lockdown, working from home, I’ve made a point of listening to at least 4 albums a day, and try to listen to at least a couple of albums I’ve never listened to before every day. It’s been fantastic. There just so much amazing music out there, old and new.

Problem is you’re now looking at £4500+ used.

Loved that. Thanks for posting. EDIT: have just been checking out more Pooka and Natasha Lea Jones. Fantastic!

So Martin is working in the Gallery is he? I wasn’t sure where they were with lockdown and everything. I have a little work that needs doing, although getting a train to London in the current circumstances isn’t really on my to do list.

One of the greats, for me. Playing, singing, tremendous songs too. And that tone.......

I’ve absolutely hated the necks on every G&L I’ve ever played. They are my least favourite ever.

No idea where that quote went! 😂

I think liking a particular voice is a very personal thing. There are some vocalists who are considered amongst the greatest, and who have been mentioned in this thread, who I personally have no time for, and I’m sure others feel the same. However I for one am rather happy about the way this thread has gone and do not want to bring negativity into it by commenting negatively on other people’s likes.

Which neatly brings me to these, who did the same for me (and Emmylou!)