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[quote name='Absolute Beginner' timestamp='1388080991' post='2318381'] Hi all. I'm new to the world of Bass guitars, so please bare with me ! I'm looking to purchase a beginners short scale bass, which is relatively light (I have issues with my left shoulder),and has little neck dive. My budget is £300 maximum, and I wondered if any of you can kindly recommend a bass within this price range.....? The two guitars I am interested in at the present time are as follows: Epiphone Viola Epiphone EB-0 (I could possibly stretch to the EB-3). I am open to other suggestions though ? For your information, I will mainly be playing Beatles covers. Many thanks. [/quote] My son is selling his Squier VM Jaguar SS. Only had it 6 months, nearly mint. Drop a PM if interested!!

Horses for courses, really. You'd have to play them to see if you like the tone. Personally, i'd go for TC stuff over Ashdown. Unless looking at the top end ABM Ashdown stuff, then the MAG stuff can sound a bit loose/wooly. The TC stuff, certainly in that price bracket, is tighter sounding. it's got a little of it's own colour, as opposed to Markbass stuff, but it's still controllable. Depends what style of music you play aswell. if you are happy with a basic thumpy tone sitting in the mix, then a MAG115 would be ok. However, if you want a tighter, dynamic tone pushing through, then definately the TC stuff.

Personally, i'd be looking to get a new amp head aswell, and would struggle to replace both amp and cab in the £500 new area. If you were planning on doing that, then this looks about the best option [url="http://www.andertons.co.uk/bass-combos/pid18527/cid687/tc-electronic-bg500-210-bass-guitar-amp-combo.asp"]http://www.andertons.co.uk/bass-combos/pid18527/cid687/tc-electronic-bg500-210-bass-guitar-amp-combo.asp[/url] If you only want to replace the cab, then personally i'd go for [url="http://www.andertons.co.uk/bass-cabs/pid15534/cid686/tc-electronic-rebel-stack-rs212-2x12-bass-cab.asp"]http://www.andertons.co.uk/bass-cabs/pid15534/cid686/tc-electronic-rebel-stack-rs212-2x12-bass-cab.asp[/url] Obviously you'd have much better options going the 2nd hand route...

The [s]mutton [/s]missus walked down the aisle to [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ9_6W6bVoQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ9_6W6bVoQ[/url] First dance to [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCYWymG9fSs"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCYWymG9fSs[/url] Best day of my life

[quote name='KingBollock' timestamp='1371513989' post='2115015'] Someone doesn't like it, they've thrown their pie at her! [/quote] I think the pie gives her stage presence. [quote name='Twigman' timestamp='1371514731' post='2115023'] You too could have one.... [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25-String-Concert-Kayagum-Gayageum-Korean-Zither-Koto-Instrument-/330648211400?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cfc2b4fc8"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4cfc2b4fc8[/url] [/quote] I'm struggling to play 4 strings, let alone 25. Love the tone of it though.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPtBdY5i8BA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPtBdY5i8BA[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfOHjeI-Bns"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfOHjeI-Bns[/url]

Personally, I prefer that both live and recorded are very similair. One of my pet hates is seeing bands live that sound nothing like their recordings. One of my favourite local bands sound fantastic recorded, but cannot replicate the dynamics, overlayed harmonies, doubled up basslines, etc, live.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8jPDdHd9y8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8jPDdHd9y8[/url] This is the album that made me wonder "What is that thick, thumpy, bendy tone?" when I was about 10.

Check out stuff by The Band, Creedance Clearwater Revival, Ryan Adams, Flying Burrito Brothers, The Eagles, Son Volt, Gram Parsons, The Jayhawks...

I used to have a Takamine EG512C. I put some TI Flats on it and it sounded lovely. Almost like a double bass on times. Was hesitant about using it live due to fears of feedback, but didn't get any. Great bass for noodling at home on aswell.

Heard it this evening in the background, missus loves her Hollyoaks!! Great stuff. I thought it was Explosions in the Sky/Mogwai/This Will Destroy You, upon first hearing. Right up my street...

Thankyou. Just need to put some flats on it now. Came with roundwounds, but cant get on with rounds...

Problem solved! Just returned from collecting a lovely Red Wine coloured BB414. Fantastic condition aswell

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1370176812' post='2097220'] I'd say the BB's sound "rounder", definitely with less growl than a good P bass. So might be right up your street. I guess it's coming down to small details here, and you need to try and compare some. [/quote] Sweet. Sounds like the BB would be for me. I'd prefer a tighter/rounded tone. I don't play any rock/metal/punk, etc, so if i did need a bit more growl/dirt at any time then i could dial some in with extra gain or a pedal, i guess.

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1370160255' post='2096978'] I like the Yammy BB's but the P pickup on them is a bit "gentler" and "rounder" in tone than on a Fender P, and due to the size of them they are next to impossible to replace. So, IMO, the BB will not give you an exact Precision tone, although it is sort of close. On the other hand a Yamaha RBX270 gives a spot on, cracking Precision punch. I have one as my main bass these days, and the J pickup on it is really very good too. The pickup and body wood upgrades over the RBX170 put the 270 in a different league. I have tried more than one very expensive P pickup in the Yam and it is no improvement to my ears on the original. Thoroughly recommended. I think there's a new B-stock one on ebay at £199, although new they are only a bit over £200. Play one and you will be impressed. [/quote] Would you say the BB pickup has a lightly compressed tone compared to the p bass? If so, I think I would like that. I mainly play blues, folk, country/americana styles of music, so looking for that thud, without any growl as such. I'll have to try the RBX270, but i know I don't like the look of it aesthetically. I don't like bass's that are pointy looking and the 270 has pointy headstock and body leading to strap button.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1370127095' post='2096860'] About five years ago you could buy these basses new for £200 , so the seller might not be losing that much in the scheme of things . [/quote] I suppose so. Especially if the seller had little insight/dedication to playing bass and originally bought it as a 'hobby to try'. [quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1370159839' post='2096971'] Ona different but related note, strangely I seem to be having far, far more luck selling bass stuff on Gumtree recently than anywhere else (including here). [/quote] Yeah, I've noticed an increase in listings on Gumtree over the past 6 months.

[quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1370124174' post='2096819'] Stop worrying about some imaginary elusive tone. Set the EQ flat. Get on with it. Worrying about tone is a distraction from playing music. [/quote] ....Nail....head.... So wish i could live with that concept, because i think it's smack on. Unfortunately, I keep thinking that if another human being could achieve 'THAT' tone, then so can I.

I know. was weighing up the petrol cost from Newport, Wales to Essex. Got busy doing stuff, forgot about it, then gutted.

Was watching, but missed bidding on this... [url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-BB414-Bass-Guitar-/111081817180?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item19dcfe045c"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-BB414-Bass-Guitar-/111081817180?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item19dcfe045c[/url]

Gone off the Jag idea a bit and looking at a good Squier P or Yam BB, now. Only got about £200 max to play with (holiday next month...!). Currently watching a couple of BB414's on feebay, so hoping i can get a well looked after one for sub £200.

What about these? [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/TC_Rebel_112_cab.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/TC_Rebel_112_cab.html[/url] Haven't used one myself, but heard they are decent and very portable.

[quote name='hamfist' timestamp='1369812680' post='2092893'] If you are talking about this Jag .... [url="http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Squier-by-Fender-Vintage-Modified-Jaguar-Bass-Special-Black/G7Y"]http://www.gear4musi...ecial-Black/G7Y[/url] [/quote] Yeah, that's the Jag, but in red. The Precision is not an affinity, it's this... [url="http://www.gak.co.uk/en/squier-standard-p-bass-special-satin-pewter-metallic/16028"]http://www.gak.co.uk/en/squier-standard-p-bass-special-satin-pewter-metallic/16028[/url] I'm after the p bass tone more specifically, but would like the jazz PUP to tweak with tone. Wondering which would give the more authentic sound and better build quality.