Chiliwailer

Not the best looker Ian, but perhaps a starting point in your search... http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/gigbags_detail.asp?stock=09102013164119#main-product-overview

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1451761311' post='2943228'] I must learn to be grateful for what I've got... doesn't stop me window-shopping, though. [/quote] A Basschat member with a wondering flirty eye? Surely not...

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1451758808' post='2943192'] Thanks, D. Now I've got GAS for the 3-Tone P4 with the Lindy pup. Hnnggg... [/quote] Haha! Yup, looks tasty that one. Love their P4's. Still, you got that lovely Limelight bro

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1451751799' post='2943110'] Just that I noted that these new ones were going for around £2k whereas the normal price was £3k plus... I wondered if they had a cheaper range..... It may well be that the 'new' ones werren't atcually new, but VGC S/H ones..?? I must admit I didn't have a really good close look as I was looking at other basses... I have to say, from a buyer and marque POV, I don't go for a premium maker downgrading a new cheaper range, generally... I may be mistaken here and they weren't new basses. If that is the case.,.they were holding their SH price well..?? [/quote] I've noticed on Bass Direct's website that they state a £3k full list price, but sell them for way less, check out the V5 on their site. I've not heard of a cheaper range, and the prices here relatively reflect the US prices. I found they can have a decent second hand price, guess that also depends on spec and demand etc. I met Mike Lull last year, dropped into the workshop for a peek and a chat. He didn't disappoint, friendly, warm and very passionate. It's a huge buzz to know that the guy who built my fave bass is a top man.

[quote name='HazBeen' timestamp='1451750173' post='2943096'] Isn't it also about budget or how much you feel is a justifiable spend? [/quote] Exactly that. I feel blessed I could afford a Lull. It's 100% justifiable to me as it beats the pre CBS, Custom Shop, JV snd US std's that I owned, by a country mile, but only with my tastes and needs in mind of course. I have friends at work who can spend £2k on annual holidays, yet I get to keep my Lull for good

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1451749391' post='2943086'] Have to say that Lull are a benchmark... Not many get close altho I saw a few recently at around £2k new....IIRC. I wonder how they compare to the 'proper' ones..?? There is something about bonding with a bass.... and to do that it has to hit your mark in virtually every way... [/quote] I actually just sold a Lull PJ4 that is easily the best Lull I've played, but I clicked with my other one more, hard to say why. However if the one I sold was my only Lull, I wouldn't have sold it or looked around, it was that good. All my 3 Lull's have been. What do you mean by 'proper one' JT?

Looking good

In response to JT's post above, I was never satisfied when upgrading a stock bass, only because I always wanted a killer stock bass that was great out of the box as I was never fully satisfied when I did tinker, can of worms fodder for me. I agree with all who say that a cheaper non boutique bass can do a just as good job, it certainly can. But until I find a bass that perfectly balances, weighs, looks, feels and sounds as good as my Lull them I'm sticking to boutique. Can't see myself ever parting with it. Am loving that the OP came back to the dark side of the budget

Lovely looking and sounding bass Mark, enjoy!

Great selling to John, clearly a very lovely fella. Cheers pal

[quote name='mingsta' timestamp='1450450089' post='2932966'] Thanks guys, does anyone know if the Mike Lull TC4 basses are slightly undersized like the mv4 model, couldn't see any details on the website. Again, not a cheap option! [/quote] Great choice of bass, you're best off emailing Paul at Mike Lull, he'll answer that for you.