Woodinblack

Unless money really is no object at all, going too cheap will not be a problem (within limits, ie, £150 upwards). I did a 3 hour gig last sunday on a bass that cost me £195 new, I did the previous gig on a £1500 bass. Noone noticed the difference, except the drummer said 'Oh cool, I like that one' for the £195 one (although that is more the shape). I did 50 gigs between 2015-2017 on a Squier 70s p bass. I had the choice of a fender P, I picked the squier as it was better. Obviously you spend your money how you want, but don't make the mistake of thinking that paying more money gets you something better. it can, but it doesn't necessarily follow. And as you say yourself you arent' familiar with basses yet, when you do find out what you want, you will probably want to get another bass, and that is the one worth spending money on. You buy the schecter that you want for £700, then find out it isn't right, you can sell it for £400. If you buy a s/h squier jazz for £200, when you sell it you can get £200 and get what you want.

If you can find a cheap second hand one it would be ok - all pretty well much of a much with fender Ps really. a used squier 70s p would be pretty good but they go for a bit more than the standards.

Agreed - actually if I was primarily wanting to do slap I wouldn't pick a 5 string at all, as it adds complications and gets in the way leaving you with ringing harmorncs (or more of them anyway). I think traditional isn't anything to worry about, if you are new you have no tradition - probably why I like narrow, my first 5 string bass had 15mm spacing, my first ric copy had 16.5, so now 17.5 is about the widest I can go before I get lost in the gaps.

If its your first bass and you are not sure how well you are going to get on with it, I would absolutely not buy anything new. There are a lot of very good second hand deals around. If you are going to buy something new, don't buy it unless you have tried it in a shop. From your list, I have an EHB, whcih is great, but expensive, and I could absolutely not play a fender jazz 5 string as the necks are way too wide for me and never found they really worked for me. Also the use of a 5 string has very little to do with if you are playing metal or not - I tend to only play 5 strings, but don't play much metal, and probably if I did it would be 80s metal on a 4 string). Also what sort of metal are you playing slap to? Get something cheap, second hand, and play it until you can work out what it is you like / don't like about it, then get something a bit more expensive when you know what it is that you want. If I was in your position I wouldn't be looking at paying more than £200. Get a used Ibanez 305 if you want a 5 string or a squier jazz if you want a 4 string.

If it was defective like that, you shouldn't lose money on the return.

I had a gig when I was getting no power through, but it turns out that there was something wrong with my pedalboard, the VU meter wasn't even moving.

Are there two good batteries in the original compartment?

Some gigs are just like that, put it down to experience and move on.

Well, it is on a blocklist because of a shared IP, but not sure that is the issue.

ok, Spelled it wrong, and it is now shown as a dangerous web page, but I am not sure why, so I will have to contact them and find out why - none of my checkers show a problem and the system itself watches for changes, and there are none listed.

I don't think there is an issue, but I will check it in case there is, can't be too cautious in these things. edit: I see no issues on it, and norton webscan on their site says its good

Mines in a bag and just gets put where it fits, not one of the things I worry about transporting

My oldest strap with schallers i about 25 years old, never had a problem. Wasn't aware there was that much of a skill to it, other than doing up a bolt. But if I did have a failure in a system that wasn't my mistake for not doing it up and not attributable to a one off defect, I wouldn't use them again. If I had two failures, I wouldn't use it again full stop.

I think what would probably work out better for me is to either upgrade the Alto 212s to something a bit more upmarket but basically the same size / shape, or to just get over it and accept it is good enough for what it does and worry about something else!

Yes, alto are a bit creative with their power statements!

I suspect he put them on incorrectly thought,. I must admit I would be very puzzled why anyone would use a strap lock a second time if it failed, let alone a 3rd time! I have had Schallers on many instruments and gigged them many times, never had them fail although they can loosen over time if you let them.

The MAUI 28 was 2 x 8" mid bass, in the bass unit and 16 x 3" drivers in the top and then 2 X 1" tweeters at the top. So quite a few speakers. I guess if you are charging by speaker it works out pretty good value.

Understood. So you think that at the moment, none of them are really worthwhile? TBH, that is what the youtube guy was saying for this sort of application.

Indeed - so surely that means the length of the array effects the dispersion of the array in general, as below the given frequency, the dispersion of the vertical plane means that more power is lost going up and down which is not where you want it, compared to the higher frequencies that aren't doing that. Which I would say for commercial items, they all do (unless you mean an additional sub rather than just what thye are sitting on). Although I did notice that you can take the columns off the MAUI ones, and bolt them to something, not that that is practical in a gig. And I suppose the Bose are just the pole and apart from the compact, the subs are separate.

Well, I ummed and ahhed on the Evox j8s, then two appeared on ebay local to me for £1k, which on the grand scheme of things is a good deal, but it is still a lot of money, so I thought about it and went to a gig, and they were sold. But then I had a gig with my two Alto 212s and behringer subwoofer, with the kit miked up and through the PA, and some bass, and the sound was great, everyone liked it* so that left me wondering again. Then PMT had a J8 that was cheap as it was a b-stock and agreed to make it cheaper which I was going to go for, but it turned out the plastic was broken, and as at the above gig I had to take the PA off the pole in the subwoofer as it was vibrating with one of the toms, I thought that wasn't good, especially at only 630. Then I discovered the MAUI 11s and 28s and have now watched all the videos of that. Then I reached decision paralysis! * apart from one woman who said our singer wasn't clear as when she had seen Queen at live aid, freddy mercury sounded a lot clearer. So thats me told. That is what he was refering too. The column length of the.. umm column gives the lowest wavelength that will beam. Below that it is omnidirectional. So therefore if all your power above (say) 2k is being beamed horizintally by the colum, and all the sound below is just omnidirectional, when you get further back, there will be less of the lower frequency sound as it has gone everywhere. They have a subwoofer part, but that only goes up to below 1k on the evox, so therefore at distance, the part between the 1k and the 2k drops off before the part above the 2k. I guess that is why I was thinking of the MAUIs, as the column length of those is a lot longer. And they a bit cheaper, and made of wood and metal instead of plastic. But now I am no longer able to think, so no issues.

It was just a note of warning that the truss rod works the other way on them, see the 'I think I have broken my truss rod' threads!

Yes, but it was bringing down the tone of the area :)

Perfect* *If you dont' have a Maruszczyk!

No, diagrams like that are completely meaningless and more than a little irritating. Moving the truss rod in either of those directions would break the neck, as you actually have to turn the nut, and the only two viable ways are clockwise or anticlockwise (or counterclockwise if you are viewing from the states) But obviously the caveat here is, whatever anyone says, this is for a fender style truss rod, and although it is common with 99% of the worlds truss rods, it isn't a 100% accepted standard, there is at least one (and probably only one) who does it the other way round!