Woodinblack

Used to do that, but I guess yours must have sounded better, as I just used a B3.

I thought their other song was good, just that that one lacked a bit of life.

General pianos aren't tuned in equal temperament though, it wouldn't sound very good at all. http://piano-tuner.org/entropy

Same here, so not sure of your point. That was a bland version, the same as the one above although one could argue it is her song to do how she wants, but not something I think is good. The original, non cover, which was effectively Alanis Morrisette and RHCP, had anger and passion, which both of these lack.

Maybe that is why - I learned with the piano, so maybe that is why the just sounds so bad to me.

I have nothing against covers in general, and I do like the original, but that takes all the anger away, which was frankly the whole point out of the song.

It would probably be quite a lot of time and effort, and at what cost?

I was quite surprised that Equal temperament sounded the best to me (just edging the 4th) and Just temperament sounded awful, I wouldn't have expected that at all. Maybe its just what I am used to. The last one was also almost as good - good old Werkmeister IIIrd!

You are welcome to it - its not something I want on any of my basses.

Oh no, that is odd, mine are pretty solid. And I didn't do much twisting! Can't you find anyone else around with a soldering iron?

I have some real luminays, frankly they aren't much better, its hardly worth it. Its best to get something that shows when they are not glowing.

While I agree that his voice comes along quite a lot in production, I wouldn't say "pretty much there", but certainly not too bad, we aren't talking Vince Neil levels of bad or anything. I was actually pleasantly surprised at how good he got it, considering where it started from and his pitch was pretty good.

yep, the song was made for an advert then the group was made to promote the song as it proved popular

if you search for "Genesis - The Last Domino? PBS Documentary" its the first hit on youtube.

oh ok. Never listened to that. Not saying he isn't a good singer, I am saying that song doesn't sound right him doing it. If you wanted someone that sounded like Phil Collins, he isn't it. Which is presumably what they wanted for that album. - Edited to add, I have listened to that album a few times, but I couldn't remember any of the songs if they were played back to me in a trial, which makes it a fairly unique genesis album.

Not sure who he is or why he would be big in poland, but can't say he is that good at doing that song.

I just watched a bit.. skipped through a bit. Not a tour I could go and see.

So you got your £15 back?

No, microtonal doesn't go close to that. A double flat is just a music theory device to get all the lines to line up. For instance a Bbb is just an A, but if you have a chord which has to flatten a note, and that note is already a flat due to the scale, it ends up as a double flat. Microtonal would be somewhere between Bb and Bbb - somewhere outside of the western scale.

Yeh, he is playing in Ebbb!

Thats something I never heard before. The root notes are called whatever the keys are, it would be unusual to mix sharps and flats in one scale, so I would agree with you, I couldn't bring myself to say C# Ab Db Gb as it looks ugly, and how can you have a scale with C# and Db in it? So yeh, if you are going to call it drop C# the other strings would be G# C# and F#. otherwise I would call it drop D flat! These aren't 'rules', but are common. The real rule on what you call something is that if you do a major scale, you wouldn't have two of the same notes in it, so for instance in the key of F you have a Bb, because if you had an A# you would have a scale with two As, only separated by a drawn sharp every time you wrote it! I would say on the strings, doesn't have to be that heavy strings if you play lightly anyway

Ere we go then. Probably too much detail but better than not enough! 1) Remove the socket from the bass with the 2 screws. 2) pull the socket out from the bass. Not much cable spare so this is about as far as you can get it 3) Undo the T7 torx bolt holding the case (and one of the legs) on. Really sorry about the state of my skin above my nail, just got out of the bath 4) With this undone you can push the black bit in the middle out of the metal holder, although as there is not much spare cable it is easier to put the metal bit back in the body. Don't worry about the little red disk, it doesn't seem to want to come out. 5) Lift the red bit out of the channel. In that channel is the spring, which you can then take out. I can't show that because my spring isn't there. It is in a box somewhere in case I ever need to put it back in, although if I ever do, I will never be able to find the right box again, but I kid myself that I can. 6) Put the red bit back in the channel, ensuring that the top of it is in line with the top of the socket, it will line up below and above, but those aren't the right places. Push the metal sleeve back over the black internal part. 7) In the process of doing this, almost certainly one of the little legs will have come out of the socket. Just push it back in the obvious space where it goes, so it lines up with where the screw goes in, and put the screw back in 8 ) then put it back in the body, do the screws up, check everything still works, and not the wonder of being able to put a jack plug in and take it out without having to use two hands!

Give me a while, I will take mine apart again tonight and have a look.

I assume that is the earth. It turns the active electronics on by shorting the sleve with the ring of a stereo socket, nothing to do with the spring or other part of the mechanism.

Agreed - looks like a normal one. Take it out and check the middle and end connectors arent' shorted out. - edit ok a fraction too early so you did. Inside that black body you should see the actual pins. If you have a meter check that the connectors aren't shorting out. If you don't, watch it when you put a plug in and check when the plug goes out they arent touching