Woodinblack

Have a look on here for the thread on SBL where scott explains it. No, youre not!

I hear this quite a lot. It seems that very few people stick with a stick, there are lots of "i usd to have one". So what made you get rid of your last ones?

http://www.guitarsbyleo.com/GALLERY2/main.php?g2_itemId=3099 is there a wire to the bridge?

It can if that connects to the metal. Either way it should connect to anything that needs earthing

Ok, that is just an earth lead, so it goes on the biggest chunk of metal you can find. Ideally it has to connect to the bridge or the strings somehow, if not just tuck it out of the way in a screw so it doesn't touch anything, all it does is ground the electronics to stop a risk of buzzing

Yes, it would be easy with a dual input preamp. Something designed that way would be good but you could take any old preamp, put 2 large input resistors in, increase the preamp gain to compensate, and bobs your auntie, you would have totally independent circuits. Most of the old fender (the man not the company) circuits pull be like that, grab one from a g&l or something

Any chance of a picture, and where you say from the volume pot, which bit of the volume pot? The case, or one of the contacts?

Oh that is impressive, yes, something like that solves most of the problems in that, yes, it doesn't have enough buttons but they are easier to add than the processing.

I couldn't spot myself either, other than shades of other things, but it was funny, well written and not offensive so I liked it. And I do know a lot of people from those categories.

What Rickenbarker? no, I think it is safe!

Well, luckily they do. In the multi effects world, the age of a unit is as significant as the functionality. I mean I know everyone is mad keen on the helix now, but go back to the last generation and it isn't much difference, just the way it is laid out and the displays etc. Sound wise its probably not possible to tell. So in a few years old all this stuff will be 'old tech' so their sales will drop because it needs to be updated, so it will be and in 10 years time people will be on forums saying 'well, yeh, I remember when the helix came out and everything thought it was ok, seems so primitive now'. I have an HX Effects, which currently provides the base of all the effects that I need for the stick to be getting on with, but obviously not amp models. That isn't so much of a drawback at the moment, but it maybe a limit later. I am still seriously thinking about HX Native. TBH, I think that Bias Amp and effects actually would cover all my needs (and easier to use than helix), except for a lack of dual channel input. Blocks are a helix thing really - you just have a number of DSP processors each of which have a processing chain of what they can do in a given time, pretty much like any processor (like the frame rate in games). Line 6 have divided that into a series of blocks to make it easily understandable by people who don't understand technology (ie, guitarists). Not directly but it does have an impact. Obviously the more power you have the better quality you can get the effects, but you still have to program them in the first place. When it came to synths I was considering going for an SY-300 but not sure how well that would work. In my situation it might actually be a good option, or a VG-99 (or 88). The SY has the advantage that I could also use it for the bass, but again it is one extra thing to lug around and power.

I must admit to knowing absolutely nothing about it. Will now have a look into it, cheers.

I would like both the strap and the stand that this guy made: The strap is easy (except getting the hook thing), the stand might take a bit more work. So what sort of action do you have in mms, and it is consistent from the X to the 24th fret? The thing I am concerned about with the bridge is that it says if using bass reciprocal contact them for longer bridge pins, but I don't have shorter bridge pins and I am going from bass reciprocal to standard. I guess I will find out. There are certainly a lot of playing styles! Almost a confusing amount when you start, as none of the starting things tell you where the notes are in case it is in another tuning. I do find that starting up, some of the information that is available for other instruments - string height, string gauge, what the knobs on the pickup block do*, how flat the board should be etc is a bit hard to find. I know, low numbers of people but with so few people out there with one, I think there should be clearer info. I also don't know what you could do to improve a stick, but I bet some people do. I don't think a slide would work as is, because a slide needs pretty hard strings, otherwise you just bash off the frets. Like with a guitar, its hard to use a slide with light gauge strings, or very low action. Talking about slides though: * yes, I have found that now, but didn't for a while.

I am using it on a chapman stick. So I have stereo input (not actually stereo, dual mono) each which need a compressor. Then I have a volume pedal, full time on the melody side and switchable on the bass. Then reverb chorus and echo. Then could do with an amp to be honest. For the bass I rarely run out of blocks (but I do use them all), for the guitar I have got to the limit several times. Seriously? You think that is it now, their designers can just pick up their stuff and go of walking or something, as that is it for effects pedals? honestly, there is a long way to go. Go and have a look at the pedalboard thread, could some of those be replicated on a helix? Not even close. So yeh, a long long way to go. and they hardly have something for everyone, as clearly I am asking for something they haven't done yet, but is fairly obvious. If you can't imagine what else could be needed maybe you have missed your calling in the fender bass design department 😀 i want the functionality of the helix in a box the size of the stomp. This isn't a money thing, this is a size thing, I don't have room for the helix, but the stomp or the HX effects don't have the blocks, or in the case of the stomp, the control and blocks. and beyond that I can think of several effects pedals that can't be replicated in a helix. Why can't you imagine that those could be done too?

No, it doesn’t. I guess I will just wait, it is pretty inevitable they will make one at some point!

It does seem good, especially when you consider their 5 string sets are around £30 and this is for 10 of them! The main saving though is the shipping and customs charges really. I would assume so - it is a big old chunk of aluminium (well, its actually aluminum as its american), so can't imagine it is going to change much. I still don't know how high the strings should be from the top of the rails, and how much bow you are supposed to have in a neck if any, I guess I will find out when they turn up. Yes. One think I have thought about now having flitted around the edges of the stick community. Emmet is a friendly and very helpful guy (he has emailed me a number of times), as are a lot of the others, but there is some element of control you don't get in other instrument worlds. Obviously he designed this thing and makes them, and has a very vested interest in its development and guidance, and I am sure it is like this when an instrument starts up, but I think that maybe in years to come, when there are more around and the patents all expire, things like that bridge, the way it is strapped on, things like that are going to go the way of the dodo, because they aren't the best way of doing things. If other people had an input they would say, oh lets add this, or change that. Like the bridge and pickups on a rickenbacker, it is a very early design and it is a bit flawed for a lot of people. If they had had the full rights to the bass, and noone could make one, there are many developments and maybe even styles of music that wouldn't develop. OK, there are loads that like them apparently, which is fine, they are there for those people, but maybe there are loads of ways of playing a stick that aren't currently possible because all sticks have to be done this way? I intend to make a strap the way that guy on youtube did his, because that makes a lot more sense to me, and I would certainly like the stand he had, it is a pain to play it sitting down!

Effectively in a way that would work but that would be 2 loads of 3 buttons, rather than a load of 6. i guess an hx effects for the input and a stomp for the amps would work (with some kind of midi to connect patches) but I would inagine you are getting if for the size of an LT by then!

I do also have a bit of filtering on his vocals too to get rid of the most troublesome of high frequencies, although you certainly can't get rid of all of it. It is lucky that as loud of a drummer he is, he is also a pretty loud singer, so that helps.

The Electric XII is a great design, I like the way the headstock looks like it was left out in the sun. "What are we going to do with the headstock on this, its a bit dull - I know, extend it a bit and make it droop over" I loved the elite II, I almost got one (not in that colour it has to be said) but then I realised how much I didn't like Ps, and that I didn't play 4 strings, but it was still somehow tempting!

Well, that would be handy I suppose, but not really what I am after, as the stomp is also no good to me due to a lack of blocks (although specifically in the stomps case, also a lack of buttons). I am more after full helix capabilities, ie, extra DSP capacity in something the size (and button count) of the HX Effects. Basically I want a helix that is small enough I can use on a pedalboard. I am thinking the HX Effects size is about as small as you can get away with, or maybe a bit smaller (6 buttons), I assume as with all things, it is just a matter of time

If you assume the answers are the worst possible answer but are still happy at the price, buy it. Just don't your breath for a quick shipping. I really don't understand why people are so terrible at communications

For me the one that worked. The best thing that happened was PG leaving genesis, for both him and them. I would say that guy in Greta Van Fleet. Oh, and Ian Gillan in Black sabbath, not so good.

Which means gibson would have difficulty competing as it would very hard to get less rigorous quality control!

I have IEMs and a singing drummer, not really an issue for me, I just turn him down a bit in my IEMs and it doesn't cause me an issue!

Im guessing there are no rumours of new products then - seems a while that they have been out now. I am still waiting for my 'helix in a hx effects footprint' box!