Woodinblack

Like an american squirrel? Its pronounced 'png'

That isn't that abnormal, most things that are being made, such as guitars end up with an extension, as there is only so long aliexpress gives people to ship, and if they don't get an extension they lose the money.

It might be mowg to them, but it will always be moog to me. If he wanted it to be pronounced mowg, he should have used fewer 'o's in his name!

I went to loads when I was young and pretty well enjoyed every one of them. I wouldn't now, because now I need comfort and luxury, but back then I didn't. Yep, there are lots of aspects (especially loos) that are no pleasant, but if you are there with your mates or a girlfriend and you are young and responsibilityless, you can look past that and have a blast. With the average age of people on basschat you can't expect them to be that popular here!

Going into a TC450 so the input has a spectracomp in it. Pretty well always on.

Oh that reminds me, we were going to cover that one - it has a bad Sax solo in it, and we have a sax player who could do it perfectly!

No, not even slightly matching the description!

Yeh. Sometimes I have messed it up because I lost concentration!

Ok for that I won’t nominate “need your love so bad” as even a truck couldn’t drive that along!

There are several songs here I hate playing but it is about simple lines. Although it does look like people have a difficultly knowing the difference between 'simple lines' and 'lines I fine easy to play'

Well, yes, I see he owned 2 so he definitely used one but its not something he is associated with. Like Paul Mccartney with a Jazz bass, Geddy lee with a Wall, Bruce Foxton with a Gibson EB2. They have been seen with them, but they aren't something you think of when you think what they play.

I don't know the other guys (apart from cockney rejects), but not only would I have not counted Nirvana as punk, I have never seen Krist Novaselic with a thunderbird. Primarily I associate him with either a Gibson RD or a Ripper, and less commonly a Ibanez Black Eagle. I see from the net he has a thunderbird, but couldn't see pictures of it, it is pretty well all the Gibson RD (and I also see Gibson make a Krist Novoselic RD).

Are you gonna go my way is a great bass line, but it has a bass solo and several trills and very tricky timing at the end, I wouldn't really class it as a simple bass line at all. I thought we were discussing 1-3 note lines or repetitive patterns?

Sanctified by Nine Inch Nails - but the original, not the one that pino jazzed up!

No, native is 'just' an effects pedal, so you would record a raw guitar / bass straight into the DAW, and all the processing would be done by native. So effectively once you had recorded it you would set up your guitar sound.

I don't have a stomp, although I have used all the others of the series, although I am aware the limitations of the stomp over full helix (native / helix / LT). I do have a HX Effects, which has its own limitations. Indeed - but I was iterating it as it may be confusing for other people reading, as you keep infering that HX edit and a stomp is the same as Native (and by its nature, a full helix), which of course it isn't, even if it may look the same on the screen. Obviously we have different needs, and if you don't use a computer for playing or recording, native would be no use to you unless you were going to take a computer to a gig (which I have done before for other reasons, but always am hesitant to do), or if you practice in the house with your effects pedals, again, probably less use. For those of us currently using the computer for practice or recording (myself included), it is a very compelling option especially as the price takes it down into the low end of the other software for doing that.

I used to use amplitube 3 all the time on my mac, but haven't been using it much because I am using Bias Amp 2, which is pretty wonderful. If I wasn't using that I would have gone for native. I might still go for native as the effects are probably better, although helix has nothing like the same customisation options of Bias Amp Mainstage is a good option but native also has its own host. If in doubt, anyone can download the 14 day trial, which runs just as the full thing until it times out. Native / Helix / LT have the same patches so you can just send them around. Stomp and HX Effects have stripped down patches, so you have to be careful to make sure they aren't too complex.

Yes, that is true, operationally the workflow is the same (other than an instant change in sound), although that isn't a surprise, as they have the same workflow as the full helix and helix rack. But that is not how you refer to them. Using a helix stomp and HX edit doesn't give you what you get from a full helix (or LT or Rack, or Native), as you keep saying, which is misleading. It doesn't give you any more functionality over the stomp on its own, it just gives you another way of editing it. I don't have a stomp so I have no idea how easy or not it is to edit, I know the HX effects and Helix LT are pretty easy to edit, but they both have more buttons, so I don't know how that translates.

You keep saying about HX Edit, like it is somehow related to native, it really isn't. TBH i have HX edit but don't really use it much as it is simple enough to edit on the fly. Native however gives me something I cant do any other way, a completely new helix that is actually more powerful than my HX effects.

Still love it. It is my 'other bass', in that I always take 2 basses to a gig. But unlike the hohner which was a true second bass, ie, a spare, I use this one. I still have to check what we are playing so that I can do it on a 4 but it is just genuinely a fun bass, sounds great, weighs nothing, just easy to play. Thing goes out of tune quite a bit though, which seems odd, as tuning is not something I do often on the ibanezes, certainly nothing I would do more than once on a gig, but with the gretch I would. I though it might be the strings on it, but put new strings on it (which made it sound better), but still goes out of tune. Never mind, certainly can deal with it. The switch got worse, now it doesn't actually stay on one side. it switches fine but then just bounces back to the middle, and I haven't put the varitone in it yet. I almost got a green one the other day as there was one for sale, but I don't need multiples! Playing it live though, it is so lively and bright with a real depth to it. Amazing for the price. Would recommend it to anyone.

Yeh - My pedalboard lives outside with the stuff to go to gigs with. So the native would be quite good to actually explore the options really apart from as I haven't got a full helix, not to put too much in a patch!

For me it is punk and prog. Which is a strange combination when thinking about it. So Geddy Lee, Bruce Foxton (although with him more P basses), and lemmy, yes I guess. I don't associate them with McCartney. I guess it was just a popular in the 70s thing. And they seem popular with punk bands I have noticed in the few occasions I have been near a punk band recently. Maybe it is regional variations. I have never personally seen a punk band with a thunderbird.

Have you tried clearing your caches. You can get it from the Develop menu on the current safari (which you can switch on in preferences->Advanced).