Woodinblack

Hi All, Spam is a general day to day problem and we are always being told not to click on links in emails that we aren't expecting, but we were alerted to a new spam today which is specific to us. Really, we should be honoured! Most people will find this obvious but just to be on the safe side for people who don't get much spam. The spam says your basschat password has expired and you have to click a link to continue using basschat. It claims to be from Basschat support desk, which I am sure you know, we don't have. We barely have a desk, let alone a supporting one. For those not familiar with this type spam, this wasn't generated by us or related to us in any way (and as such we have no control going out), but the normal rules apply, don't click on any link from us that you weren't expecting* and if you do or have already clicked on it and gone somewhere, let us know in case your password has been harvested - we don't know where the link would go, or what would happen, but it is unlikely to be anywhere good. * There is a basschat password reset email with a link, but you have to ask for that

Yep, but there is nothing you can do about it. As long as you know you can actually do it you should be fine. I have hit the stage several times not knowing that we were up to scratch!

I think pretty well everyone is on board with that idea.

Tried it on the mac, it worked as described, so thanks for that, it helps loads. So now, when I do get my plugin I can build it. Not going to get a chance I don't think tonight, I will test the tuner and have to make some mounting holes for my lit sign. Basically trying to get more of my own stuff done these days!

How much did he have to pay for the PA?

The docker instructions of yours build on the PC today - although obviously I couldn't run the docker shell scripts as windows can't, and its wsl can't either and my limited experience on docker means I can't persuade it to run interactively - even though I can get other stuff to go. Will try it on the mac later. I have always had to do it, but I really hate IT work - when people ask me if I work in IT I always say no, I work in computer software. dissapointing my degree actually memtions IT - I can stick some tape over that bit. If I worked in IT maybe I could work out why my pigeons always set my keyboard to french when they walk over it - stupid, they don't even speak french!

Yeh, but the band also needs the £2/3k keyboard rack the keyboard player entirely owns, and the band needs the £2k bass and bass rig the bass player entirely owns, the £2-3k guitars the guitarist has soley paid for and all the drums that the drummer entirely owns. So does the singer with his £100 mic also contribute to those?

We play love machine, and we are a 4 piece band of 30-50-something men. Goes down a storm. We get stupid requests, although the most stupid are oasis. as they say, I'll do anything for love, but I won't do that!

Oh there you go, followed your instructions, seems to be working on the docker image. Very different to how I used docker (I frankly had no idea how to use docker - were there some instructions somewhere that showed how to use it like that I missed)? Never used vmware either - almost all of my stuff since the 90s has been PCs and apart from a bit of hyperv recently not much vm stuff. and the only problem with that stuff was networking! Thanks for the headsup on the UTM - maybe when I get another free moment I will give that a try

excelent, well, I guess it is just me! Well, I couldn't get the VM to work either so you are doing much better than me!

I tried that this evening, on a system I tried, which was ubuntu 5.19.0.6-arm64 VM running on VMWare Fusion on an M1 mac Still failed, but different reason! Ahh - seems like it failed to download something for the right architecture. Spent too much time on that bit now, going to give up. However, I can build LV2 plugins on the mac ok, so I will get on with actually working on the plugins and maybe when I have got something that works how I want, someone with more patience than me can let me know how to make a mod one!

Guitarist seeks band. I will not contribute to decisions you have made before I joined but will contribute to any equipment that i use when I use it. Doesn't sound too unreasonable to me. wow. Well, maybe one day I will get up to an entry level PA level! Well, no I don't as the PA is owned by me, so I make a bigger investment than my colleagues. But if we had had the discussion we would still be using a very poor PA that sounded terrible. But regardless of that, I am not making a similar investment as my colleagues am I? They got to make a decision and decide on something - what happens if that was the wrong decision? I am supposed to pay for a decision I didn't make. Also if it doesn't work out and I leave in 3 months, do I get all my money back, or just some pro-rata amount? What happens if my PA is better than theirs? Do they pay me to join? Plus I am the bass player - maybe I don't want to go through the PA, why should I then contribute if I am not using it? No, honestly it makes no sense to me at all. Perfectly happy in that situation to contribute towards something I am using as I am using it, but no up front costs. We have different things we think is reasonable - I can't find any way I would find that reasonable, so its not a situation I could ever be in. But as I said, as long as that was an up front discussion before any audition then noone has their time wasted.

There is next to no band I would join on that basis ever, unless I guess they were a name group with a recording deal and the job had a guaranteed minimum payback. Happy to pay a share going forward of my pay for the use of the PA, but I would hope that if that situation happened it would be clear before the auditioning as I wouldn't want to waste my time.

If you can, can you let us know, I I have a bridge I would like to sell him

I put vmware on mine yesterday, but didn't actually do anything with it yet. But I retried with docker at lunchtime, and following the same thing I did on the PC earlier, I got the LV2 debian image installer, downloaded LV2 (not sure why it is an LV2 image when it doesn't have LV2 on it but hey), installed LV2, it passed all the tests and I installed it. So in theory, it is there ready to run and tonight I will try building a basic LV2 from the samples and playing around / adding stuff to it. If that all works (and maybe will do a few more LV2 plugins), next step would be the UI which would involve some of the mod stuff

My last ones were marked but didn't seem much point marking them currently, they so obviously only fit one way round that it takes longer to look than to try. In fact, by looking, take one headphone, put the black rubbery bit on the right of the headphone. If the cable is at the top its the left ear, if it isn't its the right ear.

Not a bad idea, but at the moment my actual issue is just getting the dev environment working, not the actual making of LV2 plugins. The plugins themselves, ie, the LV2 plugins as such not the mod versions, seem pretty straight forward. Hopefully if I get any time this week I will have a test plugin to work on, and then I will try and get it on the dwarf, and then I will try and gig it. I am certainly writing down everything I am doing along the way, and every resource I have used, hopefully at the end of this with a bit of trimming I can write a full checklist of how to do it, something that seems sadly lacking.

Currently no, but I have installed everything on another machine so I will see if that helps anything. Currently I can't get the mod-plugin-builder image working.

Sometimes there is a problem with the question that it contains a premise that is not true. When I was young I had a 4 string bass, a ric copy, which was stolen. but then I was a guitar player for a longest time. After a while I bought a bass, it was a 5 string, it just happened to be that is what I found cheap. So for me, the 'moving on' part of the question is odd. I effectively started on a 5. So for me, moving on would be moving to a 4 or a 6. I can't see any advantage in moving to a 4, other than a different choice of basses, and the problem of moving to a 6 is a wider neck for not that much gain. I have tried 6s a few times but have difficulty with the widths. I try 4s from time to time but the missing string always gets me in the end! People always assume there is a 'going to a 5 from a 4' rather than a 'going to a 4 from a 5'.

Yes, the simple amplifier project is good - shows conceptually a lot of what you need to know - the input coming in, the output going out, taking a value from external control etc. The other link that smanth posted up there covers almost the same project in a slightly different way if you prefer / can deal with youtube videos. I have tried that, it does build as a project and work.

Yeh - not going to make myself popular there am I! Never mind, there isn't much point me trying to get the LV2->Mod thing done until i have a LV2 that I am happy with, I guess there is no problem, just that I have an LV2 in mind that I actually need gigging right now, so if I can get that made this week, I will get back to trying to get on the mod.

Yeh, another few hours trying to get stuff working. I think maybe I have just been doing too much windows and mac devopment recently and have gone too soft in the head to go back to the open source jungle for a while, I have got kind of used to stuff actually working, and spending time actually writing code, rather than spending 4 hours just to try and find random unconnected parts of documentation telling you which frameworks and scripts and libraries you need to do, contradicting the last parts and sending you round the loop again. Which is a shame as the writing LV2 plugins seems pretty simple, and the documentation is good on that. The Dwarf stuff at the moment seems like somewhere between guesswork, magic and luck I will get my LV2 plugins built and tested and all working as actual plugins first on the mac, then and only then I may have renewed energy to dive into the murky badly documented world of getting them onto the dwarf!

Yeh, that is the kind of definitive LV2 resource, but the guy that did a lot of the LV2 stuff.

Yes - documentation. I don't mind if it is paper or electronic, but static text that you can read at your speed and look up the bits you want to see in the order you want to see it. I don't want someone describing the parameters to me, I want to look for the thing I need info on and nothing else! Not knocking stack overflow, it is there and it is useful (I have contributed myself) and it is a good resource. Its just that it helps to build understanding, but for many open source projects its 'why isn't this working' - half an hour browse, find a post on some random forum that says 'oh of course if your system is this type and it is a tuesday obviously you need to set the time to 38 minutes back from your request time, set the other variable to less than 16 and then the counter variable works again'. I found a 'how to build a LV2 plugin from start to finish' that is perfect, by the guy that wrote LV2 - that much is easy. Its the 'how to translate that to get it running on the mod' that seems a lot harder than it should be. I guess I should build a generic LV2 plugin (as that will work on any platform), and then when I have done that, I can hope the next step is easier! Probably just a bit pissy as I spent the afternoon trying to get docker and everything working, with the usual spotty random level of success. It seems to work, no idea where anything is but I am sure I have a couple of less gig on the machine now!

I wasted half the day trying to get going on plugin development - unfortunately it is like a lot of open source stuff where it is a badge of honour if you can actually work out the way to do something*, with half a ton of things you are supposed to download to make it easier, a lack of documentation and everyone saying 'use this framework' or 'watch this video' (I can never get any useful programming information from a youtube video!). the code itself looks pretty simple, the 'how to get from your text editor to the mod device' seems opaque as hell. * the joy of freedom. Want to write a windows app? write it like this. Want to write a mac app? write it like this. Want to do an open source or linux project, we aren't going to restrict you, you can use one of these 250 ways, but we only documented 3 and it is all out of date and probably doesn't work on your system!