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I am looking to complete a lightweight rig and, after some deliberation, have decided on the 212 modular route. I will be using an Eden WTX500, with an active fiver (steels) and am aiming for a hi-fi sound (I play mostly contemporary gospel) that I can alter with effects (for the soul stuff I play less often). I don't want to spend more than £400 on a couple of cabs. I have tried the TC and liked it. Is there enough power in its 200w for rehearsals and small gigs? It's very unlikely that I'll get to try the Eden. Does anyone have experience of both cabs? If so, how do they compare? Cheers, Tobie

I am extremely happy with my Yamaha TRBX305. Great build quality, playability and available sounds. Have received many positive comments on it. I've also found the Cort fivers to be excellent. I don't believe the hype that you need to fork out many hundreds for a 'useable' instrument. Tobie

Wise words Trevor. Appropriate, creative expression, yes; distracting performance, no. I wonder whether the notion of every team member being a leader (as an example to follow) gets lost in translation. Perhaps bass, amongst other instruments, can be undervalued in worship as a result of that. Tobie

I know it shouldn't be asked really.

It’s great to read about your experiences guys. I have had similar experiences in my own worship team and alongside occasional frustrations, have certainly developed as a player in this ministry context. Davo – thank you for an excellent list of tips, with which I agree whole-heartedly. It’s amazing how 10 is so often overlooked… One thing I would add is that whilst the majority of music used for praise and worship is constructed around a pop format, there are some instances where it isn’t. Some gospel styles for example, often involve extended breaks, impromptu modulations and changes in time signature and as such effective communication by the MD is vital. In my church, we use the Nashville Numbers System as there’s no music and often no rehearsal. This has proven invaluable. What I’m particularly interested in though, which I didn’t make terribly clear in my original post, was how members of worship teams have experienced the act of worship whilst playing bass. I also lead vocally and find this experience can be more obviously expressive, both as a worshipper and as a leader. Less often, I play guitar as accompaniment or on the worship team. The guitar seems to lend itself to expression (melodically, for example) more readily and thus it too offers a different experience to playing bass. Now I don’t believe that the bass offers anything less as an instrument of worship, in fact quite the opposite, but that perhaps people aren’t always seeing it as such and certainly not talking about that enough. I suppose I just don’t subscribe to the ‘simpler is better (or even essential)’ tagline for Christian bass playing, as per Gelfin’s link. Surely, creative expression should be encouraged, but not at the cost of distracting others. I would be really interested to hear your thoughts… Tobie

Some of the best teaching I've seen is by Richie Blake at music college tv. Thirty-odd succinct lessons cover basic theory and technique through useable drills and analysis. I imagine there's something of value to most there. Tobie

Thanks JTUK

There's some serious cheese-sniffing going on in that jam!

JTUK - where exactly in Bass Gear? I'm from St. Albans and will be visiting family next week. Would like to check it out if there's time. Cheers, Tobie

Hi all, I would be really interested to hear about the experiences of those that play bass in church worship teams and with praise choirs etc. Besides Norm Stockton's input on the matter, I've found very little public discourse surrounding bass as an instrument for worship. Cheers, Tobie

Thanks Kodiakblair. Sean Byrd's good isn't he? I like the way he plays, the way he thinks about playing and the way he talks about playing. It's quite unusual to find a gifted player who is also a gifted communicator amongst the annals of the internet. He could smile more though!

These are from some years ago. I don't play this sort of thing anymore, but really enjoyed it when I did. I'd like to do some more when the time is right. [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6yyzuUv_yw"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6yyzuUv_yw[/url] [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGJt4ReRPoY"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGJt4ReRPoY[/url] Cheers, Tobie

An interesting festive arrangement. The bass is low in the mix mind: [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Raxfn47uNo"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Raxfn47uNo[/url]

Played an SR605 whilst testing some cabs recently. It was a really nice bass. Tobie

Oodles of groove... [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpnIl2WpR1U"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpnIl2WpR1U[/url]

Hi SaxyBassist, The Genz is mine. I'll be visiting family in St. Albans, Herts for around a week from 28th if that helps? The combo is 500W at 4 ohms and 300W at 8 ohms into the cab's two 10'' drivers. It's a great sounding, loud combo. Cheers, Tobie

Cheers Musashimonkey, One thing that attracts me to both ranges is the speaker alignment. Good to hear from an owner that it's all gravy with the RSs - I will seek out the 212 to have a try too. Tobie

Are there any more opinions on this? I'm pretty much decided on either range (2 x 210, 210 + 212 or 210 + 112) to go with my newly acquired Eden WTX500 head (thanks to Bassbunny). Haven't been able to compare like-for-like, but definitely preferred the K212 over the RS210. Generally prefer 210s and would like to try the K210. K series in general looks well built and high spec for the money. Where's the compromise? There also seem to be a few RS cabs appearing in the Marketplace here. Any particular (sinister) reason that anyone knows of? I'm not bothered about looks, incidentally. Cheers, Tobie

I've played it too. Nice.