Dood

I'm very impressed with Ampeg SVX.. I wonder if the MB plugins would offer the same flexibility.. but as you say, if you're using MB amps, then it seems logical to use a matching plug in.

I have a sneaky suspicion it maybe a bit short for the depth of the amp. I *think* my SVT 2 Pro fitted the normal size case ok.The doors on the Gaitor cases are rather deep though, so you may just get it in. I'd find out the dimensions of the SVT from the manual and measure up to be on the safe side!

Hey Steve! Thanks for the message earlier! Glad your new acquisition got home safely.. and is looking rather cool!

and confirmed. Thanks ;o)

I'll take one please! pm coming your way......

[quote name='d-basser' post='256880' date='Aug 7 2008, 08:08 AM']what you need is to sit down and chat to dood[/quote]


[quote name='Sibob' post='256937' date='Aug 7 2008, 09:27 AM']Paul here is a good mate of mine, I'm glad that people just suggested the two things I did....makes me feel warm and.....well....right lol

I know Dood uses Darklord strings on Doodle (his 7 string paul), but I pointed him in Dood's direction more for advice on bridges.

Si[/quote]


[quote name='peted' post='257015' date='Aug 7 2008, 10:38 AM']Warwick Darklord strings are taper-wound at the bridge so they should fit most standard bridges (meaning that you won't have to replace it!). That'll give you a .175 string for the F# which Dood has previously endorsed.[/quote]


Ahhh Hello! Yes! I saw your post to my MySpace! I know what you're after now!

Well.. as above, I am using my 'sig' Jon Shuker 7 string and my F# is a Warwick Dark Lord. I can't really add any more to the discussion about bridges, as the Dark Lord .175 will fit into a standard top loading bridge and this would be the best way to go. Have a look at my review here [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=137"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=137[/url] for some pictures! ;o)

When it comes to making the note sound.. my bass is a bit spesh, despite being a 34" scale that I have been told 'shouldnt' sound any good lol.. Sounds massive!

You mention NewTone! Excellent strings, but the guys made me a standard (higher tension) 145 gauge F# string and that worked very well! I'm not sure if I have any spares now though. Basically, we told them that the string was going to be tuned down, so they made the string to suit the required tension to get the set feeling good across the neck. I reckon you should try that too!

Here's some more info about my 7 string with said strings! [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3746"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3746[/url]

[quote name='dood' post='258436' date='Aug 8 2008, 07:45 PM']Where are you based?[/quote]


HAve a look at this thread for Luthiers nearer to you! [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=253"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=253[/url]

[quote name='Shadow_Corps' post='258383' date='Aug 8 2008, 06:32 PM']id love to but i dont really have that many custom bass shops or anyone that builds them near me [/quote]

Where are you based?

{edit.. What Argh said! lol lol}

Here's my pride and joy! "The Doodle" - Note the gawjuss Blue/Purple/Green flip paint finish!!

Firstly the completed thread here on BassChat:- [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3746"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3746[/url]

And a very nice start to finish build diary I made with pictures and full details:- [url="http://www.danveall.co.uk/Shuker7Page.htm"]http://www.danveall.co.uk/Shuker7Page.htm[/url]

And here's some sexy pics taken from the build diary! There's plenty more in there!!











Look out for Doodle's little sister coming very soon!

I haven't, but I would strongly suspect that it would need some dry bass mixed in parallel so you don't lose any bottom end when it is kicked in... bit like the MXR M80 I guess!

Ah yes, just got your MySpace request!

Added and welcome aboard the good ship BassChat.. and other wayfaring metaphors...

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='196253' date='May 10 2008, 10:24 PM']I use the Headphones output on my Eden for in-ear monitoring of my own bass.

Using someone else's backline today, I found myself using an Ampeg SVT something-or-other, with what few sockets there were on the back of the amp rather than the front.

I found (by feel) two sockets which would drive my ear-piece, but each of them also cut off the signal to the cab!

So ... no in-ear monitoring then.

Was I missing something? Does anyone else use in-ear monitoring? Is this a common problem, or are Ampeg SVT's badly-designed?[/quote]


Hey Jack!

Hope you are well!

If you weren't looing at what you were doing, you probably stuck your in-ears into the return or AMP IN sockets on the back of the ampeg, both of which are likely to cut the signal to the power amp. (No sound to the speakers) You may, by design still get a signal to your In Ears in some cases.

The moral of the story wopuld be to look at what you were doing.he he he!!! What would have happened if the amp had the same type of jack socket for it's speaker output? A fried In-Ear system and a big repair bill!

I am assuming that your In-ear system is a powered system and not just a set of earphones? (ie now external amp) - You could try the following outputs on an Amp if they are available..

Tuner Out - likely to give you the same signal as coming into the front of the amp with NO eq or volume control from the amp.

Send fx - The signal is in most cases likely to be post gain and EQ, so pretty much all the controls except the master volume will have an effect on what you hear in you lug oles.. also out through the cab too.(My MarkBass features a pre EQ effects loop, so the only control that effects the send signal, is the gain control.. so.. some amps are different!)

Direct out / Line Out / DI .. this output is likely to be post effects, gain and EQ, but pre master volume.. so the volume control on the amp is unlikely to affect the in-ear signal.

Sometimes there is a 'recording out' which is the same as the line out. Some guitar amps use a filtered 'speaker simulator' on such an output, however it's less likely to find such a sim on a bass amp.

If an amp has two inputs, *sometimes* the inputs are connected passively, so you could in theory use one of the inputs as an output. This tends not to be the case with dedicated dual channel amps, but the likes of old valve amps with Hi and Low sensitivity inputs you could get the basses signal here.

Finally, sockets you cant really use!

Line In, Effects Return, Amp in, Speaker output!!! footswitch (you may laugh, but if you were feeling for a socket, 9/10 they are a 1/4" sockets too) Anyway, you get the idea!


disclaimer- I wrote this really quickly!

Awww cool!

And of course, Michael Tobias put Barts in the USA Tobias basses too! - I believe thats what he puts in his own MTD basses as standard as well?

I was thinking, instead of just getting some bits of wood to stick in the holes, why not have a luthier make up some proper inserts to match the 'colour scheme' of the bass, that would look like they were meant to be there all along? Maybe some laminates? The laminates of the neck thrue design is a 5 piece Wenge and Maple slab, so maybe something that matches that, or takes the design around the pups? Wouldn't be too expensive and would look sexy as!! I really love Tobias basses. I have owned a couple. Both 6ers, one in 'natural' and another that had a gorgeous translucent red finish. My Shuker 7 string and my 6 string that is on the way, actually have a lot of specs from the Tobiases, making them feel familiar.. and as you know, really rather good to play!

Dan

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='247594' date='Jul 25 2008, 10:14 AM']ill certainly be messing with the EQ for the next few gigs. Just to see if it makes a big bifference. Normally i keep the Eq pretty flat on my MB heads.

Oh, i went to Tesco's last night.
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Looks like my kettle!! Mine's white with additional red lights too!

Ok, here's the poweramp you want mate. Honestly, seriously good value for money..

[url="http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Yamaha-P5000S~ID~2282.asp"]http://www.soundslive.co.uk/product~name~Y...00S~ID~2282.asp[/url]

[url="http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_europe/uk/20_proaudio/60_power_amplifier/10_no_category/10_power_amplifier/index.html"]http://www.yamaha-europe.com/yamaha_europe...fier/index.html[/url]

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Check out the big brother, the P7000s if you need more power!

I sold mine ONLY to get my powersoft 1u amp!

The amp has loads of really useful features, especially a variable active cross over on each channel, for tuning out those unhelpful sub frequencies that most cabinets can't produce anyway!

[quote name='RichBowman' post='247127' date='Jul 24 2008, 06:31 PM']I'm planning on going up there next week (after Jon and I have had a few previous abortive attempts!)

If you want me to get some pics for you, drop me a line (and probably best let Jon know as well so the basses are there) and I'll see what I can do.

Hopefully I can help ease the pain a bit!

Cheers,

Rich[/quote]


Hey ya Rich! Great to hear from you! s'been a while! You keeping well mate? Yeah, ok.. that would be really great, but clear it with Jon first, as I know he has said that sometimes he doesnt like people taking pics of other customer's basses. No malice or anything meant, but I would respect his wishes.

If I remember I'll drop him a line to say that I am ok with you taking pictures, if he hasnt done some already.

Chat soon matey.

Dan

[quote name='Bigwan' post='246232' date='Jul 23 2008, 04:39 PM'] 4 weeks

He told me that his build time was 12 - 20 weeks when I put down my deposit... on the 6th November... that makes it 37 weeks by my count! To say I can't wait to get my hands on it is an understatement! Jon's a great guy to deal with, but his timing estimates leave a bit to be desired![/quote]

I must apologise, as apparently I sent him a fair amount of work this year ;o) In March he had 20 basses on the go!!!! Which is shooting myself in the foot, as it means my own bass has encountered a few delays too!


Dan

Well, it has been a bit quiet on the trail recently, following Jon's workshop move, that must be a bit of a nightmare. He was gonna send me pics a cuppla weeks ago, but I am in no doubt he is busy!!!

Must give him a tinkle!

[quote name='dannybuoy' post='246247' date='Jul 23 2008, 04:58 PM']What I've seen someone do before is a use Sansamp BDDI, take the unaffected output to an MXR-M80, and send an effected DI from each box straight to the desk, letting the soundman have 2 pre-amp signals to blend together. Sounded pretty good to me. But this is a good way to blend 2 pre-amps without the need for a separate blender like the Boss LS-2, as long as one of them as a clean output like the Sansamp does.[/quote]

Similar to my very own set up actually!

I run my signal into an MXR80, the output directly to input one of my FX unit.I run the unnaffected parallel output into my Sansamp and the output of that goes into input 2 of my effects unit. I then use the effects unit to mix and balance the two signals as required.

Both pedals are set to a blend so that in both cases a percentage of the original bass tone comes through as well. So, I have a dirty sound, an 'amp' sound AND a direct sound all mixed together. The whole lot is dumped out to my F1 for backline, or, if I so chose, out to a stereo balanced out for recording etc. The sound makes my bass and set up very touch sensitive and pretty brutal when need be. It's a bit like Pete Steele and Marcus Miller playing at the same time ;o)

I'll dig out some vids floating around the web of me later.. Nothing recent though I'm afraid.

I'm an Elites endorser, so I'll *feigns misery* [i]have[/i] to go with them ;o) Cheers guys!

My new Shuker headless will most defintely have 'em plonked on! ;o)

No Compander!!!!!! This I have GOT to hear!!! - Every wireless I have ever tried has let me down.. cos I am soooo fussy! Could this be something decent at last?

I'll do a proper reply to this thread later, as obviously I am an ERBer and have ben for many years. The short of it, is that I actually prefer playing a wide neck. I do have massive hands though, so maybe just my genetics suit a *ehem* bigger beast ;o)

I'll echo what you have said already 7string; When I first unveiled 'Doodle' at the BassBash, She was passed round the room and I was pretty chuffed to hear so many people say that the bass was a lot easier to play than they expected and not at all frightening. I spent a lot of time figuring out how to make the neck and bass as playable as possible and I think I succeeded! I've always loved the 16mm string spacing.. it makes for faster string skips and doesnt take long to get the hang of. Ummm.. oh yeah.. I have always slapped in 'thum down' position, so made very little change to my technique to accomodate the spacing too.

The only thing I would add maybe, is the wider neck actually forced me to play with a better 'safer' hand position. Infact, my whole posture used to be rubbish.. but I started to improve one aspect of my playing and the rest followed suit!

Think I veered off the topic a wee bit.. but I had some thoughts to put down!

I found the trick seems to be mixing in dry bass end (with some rolled off top end) with a mid gained distortion mixed in parallel. The idea being that you can still get a really good beefy bass end and grit on top. If you can chose the crossover point carefully, it sounds natural too. The MXR isn't *quite* flexible enough to do that on it's own... maybe a customisation project is on it's way! I run the MXR and sansamp in parallel and mix the two outputs. I liken it a bit too how some bass players use a bass stack and then have a guitar amp in their gear too, in order to add a bit of edge and grit. I think Duff McKagan has done this, when recording amongst others.

I'm waiting for the MarkBass F500 to hit our shores. I have the F1 already and I think it is almost the perfect amp. Needs a mute switch and *maybe* the para EQ..which as it happens is exactly what the F500 includes over the F1! ;o)

[edit] the F1 features two Speakon/ 1/4" combo sockets ;o)