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It was more a case of if you can get the book sometimes the audio which originally was cassette and was invariably lost or not particularly useable, you could have a copy of the audio from me. Dont feel bad about it, this is the second one i bought with cd as a student of mine lost my original copy.....

Great book, if you can pick up an old one, i have the cd version if you need a copy.....

[quote name='funkypenguin' post='659548' date='Nov 19 2009, 07:33 PM']As a reader and someone who has been reading since i started playing music, once you've gotten the notes down, and assuming you have a musical head on you, its expected that you interpret the notes on the page to get, well, MUSIC! out of the notes! every bass player will have a different interpretation of whats presented to him/her, so if a band/artist/producer has a very specific idea of how they want the line phrasing/emphasising, then either a recording or some rehearsal time are essential, speaking from experience.[/quote] These guys we are talking about, Westwood, Pearce etc, invariably go in cold with literally no rehearsal most of the time, read the dots, please the producer and then they are off to the next gig. They are monster readers and know how to deliver a part is most cases pretty much on a first take basis, unless they are running additional parts by a producer.

[quote name='Doddy' post='659232' date='Nov 19 2009, 02:03 PM']So why are guys like Steve Pearce,Paul Westwood,Phil Mulford, and Trevor Barry (to name a few) so busy? Because they can 'hit it' and know what they are doing. I'd much rather hire someone like this than a player who can only 'busk' it. Back to the Pete's question,understanding the basics of a range of genres is a big part of interpreting charts. If you know the stylistic differences between,say, Rock,Jazz and Country, you can apply the correct feels to the music as you are reading them. The charts give you all the information regarding what to play,but it's up to the player to interpret it the correct way.[/quote] I totally agree, and check out these guys as they play in all different genres and styles. They are precise, reliable and fast. Also there is a lot to be said for experience in these areas and how you learn from it, Paul Westwood and Steve Pearce are great examples of how to do it

Well the fishman is in full swing, unlike my playing at the moment Anyway sounds great so will keep up the not so good practice.....

+1 for the investment on the acoustic, but i have to say a good bespoke or luthier made EUB will hold its value. Like anything i guess instruments are only worth what people are prepared to pay for them at the end of the day

[quote name='Changles' post='657980' date='Nov 18 2009, 12:11 PM']Ah you guys are all saying the things I've been painfully aware of! I feel like I should get an acoustic so I can learn properly. I feel like an electric might just give me a wholly unsatisfying pale imitation... But I doubt I can transport the double bass, my guitarists' needlessly large amp and the needlessly large drum kit all in that punto! I wouldn't be so fussed about getting it to gigs early on anyway, just having it to play at home would be enough for me. Then, maybe one day, we'll get a large van and I'll be good enough by then to justify bringing it! Yes I am convinced an acoustic is the best option, right? Am I right? Right? Time to start saving up the pennies for it then![/quote] Went through the same dilemma myself and there are valid points and arguments for each situation. You will need to pay a substantial amount of money for a good EUB and there are some good luthiers out there who can emmulate the feel and sound of a traditional acoustic.. Thumb position and right hand techniques are essential if you are going to learn to play properly. Some EUB's dont encourage these techniques. I have a clifton EUB, Yep, it was expensive but fairly priced, has bouts and feels like a traditional acoustic and needs time to get used to, just like an acoustic, but my advice would be to go and try as many basses both EUB and acoustic, but do not be put off from the fact that an acoustic bass when first played in a shop, will feel really starnge and maybe not easy to play. If you have or know of any players, try their bases also as they are likely to be reasonably set up if they play regularly

I'm new to DB, well EUB to be precise and i find that a few initail aches when just starting due to the size of neck and the ergonomics of it all, soon pass. More importantly i do short lengths of practice until i can feel the strength in my dexterity improving. Have a rest, return again and that way build up slowly. Works for me i have to say...... [quote name='bilbo230763' post='655715' date='Nov 16 2009, 10:04 AM']Some of you may recall that I have posted here reporting a bad experience with the DB and discussed some injuries I have sustained which still cause me some twinges and aches. Well, an opportunity to try the instrument again has dropped in my lap and I wanted to hear some concensus from double bass players who have learned the instrument later in life (i.e. not a a child but as an adult learner). I am hoping to get a sense of whether I can go at this again without further difficulties or without aggravating existing issues (currently feeling quite minor). It would be my intention to get a tutor and not try and go it alone but I guess my question is, can you learn the double bass later in life without going through the pain and misery of aching limbs, bad backs and bleeding callouses I'd really like to do this but am anxious that I may be making a rod for my own back. How did others fare?[/quote]

My seller used the positive feedback route to leave a negative comment about me

Guys, I bought an item from a seller who held the item for 6 weeks claiming non payment even though my card was debited at transaction. Seller left me neg feedback to which i replied. Seller then retracted and amended feedback, but still in a neg way. Item arrived, totally different from the photo of the item i bid and won. I raised a dispute for non receipt of item, then one for mis selling as item as it was not as photo........ Guess what, Ebay and paypal, found in the favour of the seller, so it begs the question, who and what is right and who gets to choose what feedback and result is good??

Any one considered Paul Westwwod or Steve Pearce ??

[quote name='rodl2005' post='650316' date='Nov 10 2009, 05:06 AM']I did & had similar results to W.O.T. above. But after a few more tries & got a pretty good tone outta it. Same for me with elec bass & the SABDDI... I used the VT bass pedal to great effect- LOVE it!! Then had chance to grab a prog.(3 chan.) SABDDI - & tried it with both EUB & elec bass. With BOTH instruments I didn't like it at 1st. But after a few tries I got pretty good results with the EUB & now I love it with the elec bass too. Tho I now use a Fishman Platinum + Pre amp/DI for EUB[/quote] Thanks for that, I have just ordered, well yesterday ordered the Fishman Plat Pro Bass EQ/DI for my EUB as it seemed to be the favourite and most widely used preamp. Made sense of a lot of questions i have to say. Thanks for all your comments Steve

Anyone used a SansAmp Bass Driver DI stomp box as a preamp for the piezo signal of an EUB to an amplifier? If so what do you think??

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[quote name='henry norton' post='648300' date='Nov 7 2009, 07:17 PM']Just curious but what type of board do you prefer; lined, marked (with harmonic positions where the fret would be), or good old plain unmarked? And why, of course![/quote] Lined, but try not to pay too much attention to them......... Rely on my ears most of the time now and that way, you can play, read etc without having to concentrate on positioning, which does come as a natural thing after a while of getting to know your fingerboard

[quote name='derrenleepoole' post='647210' date='Nov 6 2009, 01:23 PM']The Bass Buddy is a superb preamp. Designed by a bassist, for bassists. While it's a preamp primarily used by electric bassists, the eq is voiced specifically for bass instruments. The signal is super clean with no tone colouration, is quiet and the compressor is superb. The small size, excellent build quality and feature set are certainly worth considering. There's currently one on [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Phil-Jones-Bass-Buddy-Preamp-Pre-amp-Excellent_W0QQitemZ280419163785QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL?hash=item414a48de89"]eBay[/url] for £175. A steal I'd say![/quote] Thanks for the insight, and i was looking at the said buddy on ebay which prompted my thoughts about going down this route as its not just a preamp. I was just a little concerned how it might deal with a piezo pickup for my Clifton for example

Hi all, Anyone use a Phil Jones Bass buddy as a preamp for their Upright or electric upright? Is it worth considering or is the Fishman the way to go as its specific to the Upright/ EUB. What are your comparisons/ experiences??

[quote name='Doddy' post='637066' date='Oct 26 2009, 04:50 PM']Correct. There are some great Electric Uprights about,but you have to be prepared to spend a lot-e.g. Clifton,Clevinger,Eminence etc. Basses like the NS or the Dean Pace are more like Vertical fretless basses than Uprights. The whole playing experience is different on these instruments.They have no body bouts to allow thumb position playing,the strings are usually alot lighter gauge,and most of all,the sound is just not the same.Most also don't allow arco playing. I use a Clifton Upright for practical reasons when I need Volume with out feedback,and these basses really are very upright-like. An Electric Upright like the NS is no substitute for an Upright. Most of the players would struggle to last a couple of numbers on a 'real' bass.[/quote] Great comments and in my mind i also agree with the fact that the NS is not a good substitute for an upright