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Royal Blood would have been better venting their frustration at their manager/booking agent.

There does seem to be a growing number of really nice instruments for sale at some very reasonable prices that get little interest. Sign of the times.

Well I’ve learned a lot from various people on BC, particularly on topics I know little about such as technical build and music theory. I guess the key is knowing my limitations and having a willingness to learn rather than get defensive and insult people. Plenty of people post about prices going up sharply, the cost of living, about mortgage rates increasing etc. I have some knowledge around these issues and try to explain the economic factors that drive them. Most people are politely bored, some interested, some just plain rude. If you want to vent some spleen do it at Andrew Bailey and the BOE. They are the ones that let inflation get out of control and they are the ones raising interest rates and defining the factors that influence each decision. Their decisions have directly impacted the level of mortgage debt people have taken on and the increase in costs of repaying that debt.

Depends if you have songs that require different tuning etc

personal jesus - going to go for the cash version

Absolutely. Even I’m bored with myself. Edit: The reason I am so preoccupied with this matter though is even if by some miracle the powers that be manage to halve the current rate of inflation it doesn’t mean prices will go down, just that they will RISE at twice the rate they did two years ago. It’s fairly shocking.

I think I will conclude this bun fight as you don’t really grasp the economic factors behind the debate. I would try googling monetarism, Friedrick Hayek , Milton Friedman, Inflation and what causes it. (Quantative Easing, decades of interest rates kept too low, supply shock due to pandemic and war as source of inflation). Then try Wage price Spiral (symptoms of inflation) and find out what the MPC is, what their remit is and what factors they are targeting. (attempts to ‘cure’ inflation). Wage price spiral is a contentious topic but nevertheless it’s something the BOE have said they are targeting on several occasions. The comparison with German wage constraints and one off payments to tackle inflation and the cost of living crisis are stark. This can be handled with sensitivity. At this point you might see there is no inconsistency in my position and you then can dismiss my arguments or suggest how I could look at situation from a different angle. There are other perspectives. My position is fairly old fashioned and doesn’t chime with much of modern economic theory. I have a feeling it may make a popular resurgence though. The world is changing. I never claimed the poor don’t deserve more money, just that if wages jump 7% across the board (this is the figure currently and believe it or not UK pay is rising faster than the EU at the moment) and the MPC is looking to stop inflation getting entrenched by raising rates to curtail it we will end up a circle that can never be squared. More money will be needed to ease the effects of inflation, which fuels inflation, which causes the MPC to tighten which means more money is needed, and so on until we have hyper inflation or a savage recession. It’s too late now anyway. Any chance to have contained inflation has been missed. At this stage inflation is entrenched and policy is already tightened. Naturally people will fight for pay increases. The spiral has started in earnest. How or when it will stop is anyone’s guess. I suspect rates will hit at least 5% by winter. The cost of servicing debt will be horrendous. Some councils will go bankrupt, some commercial real estate projects will most likely fail and there may be a crash in the housing market. The UK is really exposed to property slumps due to the prevalent short term fixed rates. There will be periods of optimism that the hikes are working and inflation is easing, whether this reverses as winter fuel bills kick in though is not known. As for extraordinary sensitive, you keep accusing me of being uncaring and being some kind of tool that wants to put people in their place “you wish to preserve the distance between you and those at the bottom of the heap. Fine, but just be frank about it..” is both rude and presumptuous. I work in the public sector so have some concept about lack of pay over the last few years. I also have (a limited) understanding of economics so could see the storm brewing and the damage it was likely to bring so tried to warn people to watch out. The time for pay restraint from middle income earners has passed, the opportunity missed and the consequences are being felt. The most pressing for most people is the price and availability of mortgages. I got a lot of rudeness for pointing out some very basic economic principles. Usually the rudeness comes from people who appear to be economically illiterate.

Absolutely. Haven’t slept a wink since. I see that despite all that is happening and how utterly crushing it is going to be for those poor sods re-mortgaging from 2% to around 6% over the coming months you still can’t understand my concerns. No I don’t wish to preserve a distance. It’s simply that there are a whole load of factors that are all colliding simultaneously that are driving up prices and some poor sods are likely to be repossessed as a result of the policy response to those factors. Four years ago the world was a different place. A lot has happened over those four years that has made any increase in the money supply a pretty scary issue for an old fashioned monetarist like myself. And still there is the inability to understand alongside the insults. For what it is worth I am deeply regretting a decision not to move to France a decade ago when I had the chance. A high tax socialist economy I personally identify with. What is happening in the UK is a right mess and will take years and a fair bit of hardship to sort out. A few % payrise is not going to touch the sides on a tripling of mortgage debt. And so the merry go round, goes round as the snake eats its tail. Edit: To clarify yet again I fully support pay rises for those on lower tier paybands. Nurses and ticket inspectors need the money. Im not sure that middle managers, senior IT staff and the like are in the same category of need. Us guys can take the hit. Or at least we could have 12 months ago before rates were hiked again and again to try and put a lid on things. It’s too late now.

I had a right laugh going to gigs with a mate that had different taste in music back at school/uni days. Highlights were The Proclaimers (his choice) U2 (his choice) The Pogues and The Wonderstuff (my choice). Low lights were Transvision Vamp (his choice) and Fields of the Nephilim (my choice) we both suffered through our obligations with them.

Eggs and Sausage (In a Cadillac with Susan Michelson) - Waits

I would add you may be the best band in the world, consummate performers and giving it your all. However not everyone is going to dig your music. Lady in bobble hat may have been dragged there by her partner. Next week he/she will be suffering through Lana Del Rey or Gojira or whatever.

Indeed. I was called that in 2007 as well. To be fair I follow an economist nicknamed Dr.Doom so it’s not my doing. Edit: Glad to see you back fighting fit.

Go back and read my comments and your replies in the strikes thread, where I was warning that inflation busting pay rises would potentially fuel inflation and were a major factor that the bank of england were monitoring in their rate hike decisions. They clearly warned that any whiff of a wage price spiral would lead to rates ratcheting faster and harder. I was trying hard to say that inflation is really hard on the lowest earners and middle income earners like myself would need to take on some pain and not push for inflation busting pay increases, as it would directly impact on driving interest rates higher. When public and private debts are so high raising rates are really punitive. I warned on the impact that would be felt on mortgages, rents and pensions if rates rose. I also warned on what happens when yields increase, particularly with short term gilts. Borrowing costs increase and volatility kicks in making a recession far more likely. After taking a kicking I warned you would understand in around 18 months. Its now nearly 12 months in and I’m afraid it’s looking ugly.

heaven knows i’m miserable now - les schmucks

Pretty sure you were one of the posters that gave me the biggest beating when I was urging some restraint on pouring gasoline onto the inflationary bonfire. Sadly most of my worst fears are being realised and it’s starting to get pretty unpleasant. Inflation is becoming entrenched and the effects of tackling it is starting to cause real pain for those with debt, particularly mortgages and rents. Hopefully you may be able to see that I wasn’t posting out of malice but with a genuine concern for ordinary people trying to put a roof over their heads.

I think the wider economy is about 6 months away from this conclusion.

How many stamps that will never be used or bottles of wine that will never be drunk does anyone need?

3 steps to heaven / eddie cochran

Things are starting to slow down in the BC market place and the wider economy. I think there is a growing realisation that high prices are becoming embedded and are proving hard to shift. Attempts to do so are making life difficult for people with mortgages and unsecured debt on things like credit cards and other loan repayments. There is less money available for non essential spending. It’s likely going to be a tough few years whilst the mess is cleared down. Sadly the UK chose the long grinding path rather than the short but brutal route back to growth.

One of the few bands that have something to say that is worth listening to.

Glad that The Teskey Brothers didn’t do the same in Bristol the other week. I also fit the angry face not overly enthusiastic profile. That gig in particular my back was playing up which made my natural visage even more surly. I found some of their stuff a bit samey and had it been a festival would have wandered off for a beer on occasion, but had a great time anyway and they are an excellent band.

do you want to know a secret - them again

Used to play it a lot to get myself through night shifts.

pull up to the bumper - grace jones

Personally I would never leave my phone in a locker at the gym. At the very least make sure that your phone is SIM locked.