I never really saw Nick Cave as a goth. Id put him closer to Tom Waits in terms of theatre and character driven prose. I like plenty of goth music, if taken with a heavy dose of irony as it’s all fairly ridiculous.
Tom Waits
Leonard Cohen
Nick Cave
Shane MacGowan
All superb and Lyrically wonderful. Guaranteed to clear a party in seconds (apart from fairy tale of new york - the pogues lovecats….)
Yet Cream were founded well over 50 years ago! A few years before there was basically no such thing as a teenager and Max Bigraves would have been fairly risqué.