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There we go. All the fx are in the loop. Clean signal is BO box - microthump - comp - DI FX signal - BO box - FX loop (all fx) - micro thump - comp - DI Comp is set fairly low for clean finger style and obviously kicks in a little more when FX take hold. Microthump cleans out bottom end before it hits the comp.

I've got a Bright Onion box that includes an FX loop. I put all my FX in the loop that way there's less noise (i.e. you haven't got your clear bass sound running though up to 10 fx pedals - gets noisy! ) and it means I can have a couple of pedals turned on in the loop (e.g. 8ver and squelch) and that way one switch will turn them both on. Also I found sometime I'd not switch things on properly as the type of switches used to turn pedals on are all different and that got annoying so one switch all the time (loop on / off) works better for me.

Some really interesting stuff in here, thanks for the reply. I'll try to briefly respond as should be working! I love the concept of a much improved tab with all those features but the cynic in me simply says you're re-inventing the wheel....music notation has done all of that already so why bother. And furthermore one of the benefits of music notation is that it allows relationships between notes / keys etc to be clearly seen. Tab doesn't allow that it simply tells you where to place your fingers. So you can replicate music (if the tab / your ears are good enough!) but it doesn't necessarily highlight clearly the relationships between the notes which is pretty important. I must confess I don't think traditional notation will come up against a lot of competition - it's existed and function very well for 100's of years, for a reason that it allows music to be clearly, accurately and intelligently displayed whilst simultaneously allow the player to make their own choice of fingering / positioning etc to facilitate most clearly whatever is going on in the music. Want to play with three fingers (like double bass) rather than four...not a problem because notation DOESN'T tell you where to put your fingers just what the notes are. To nicely return the GIS / map analogy...currently tab simply gives you a single route from home to your destination whereas music notation gives you the whole map. It gives you all the options and that's why overall it's inherently superior. I should note however that alternative methods of notation (graphic scores / tab(!) etc) do exist and exist for a reason and often that's to fill a gap - DJ'ing, synths, electronic music etc are all in need of something to at times more accurately represent what's going on. Notation is not perfect, far from but it serves a useful purpose. Now you note that you're not going to ever be in a sight-reading situation and that you're using tab as a learning tool. Great, it's good to be clear about your need to use, in this case tab, for a specific purpose. And you make an interesting comment about theory / practice in relation to sight-reading but I would reply to that by saying that I do a lot of work that doesn't require notation (i.e. original music written /arranged by ear) and I still use them same theory in practice when I do that as well. If you avoid learning any theory / developing your understanding of musical structures / language then you're restricting yourself...that's a slightly different discussion I think but whether I'm reading / hearing a C major triad (for arguments sake) I know what it looks like (notation), sounds like (aural), how it's constructed (theory) and how to actually play it (physical). Music is a combination, for me, of all those different elements. Must get back to work, I know I have't addressed all your comments but I've made a start I hope...and bear in mind I'm NOT coming completely (though mainly!) from a place of MUSIC NOTATION GOOD TAB BAD but rather am slightly playing devils advocate because it's a discussion I often have with my students....who I'm sorry to say all end up reading music notation and avoid tab Just for transparency!! Look forward to your reply.

I think it’s worth considering too that you would NEVER get given tab in any kind of professional setting. There’s a reason music notation has developed and become the accepted way to transmit Western music over tab - it’s the best format that’s been invented. Tab does not clearly show relationships between notes just where to put your fingers amongst flaws. Tab has been used for lute music for many centuries so it can’t just be written off - it certainly has its place / useage but ultimately for modern music it’s at best a flawed system. Clearly it’s an emotive subject but my experience from the ‘other side’ as a strong reading musician is that it’s only musicians who can’t read who kick up a fuss and want to read tab / improve tab. Learning to read took many years and much frustration on my part - so it’s not an easy process either but it’s a very valuable one. Not what the OP wants to hear I doubt but there we go. Ultimately we all have to decide what best suits our situations. If you’re not in reading situations on a regular basis then it’s probably not a priority and energy could be expended more effectively elsewhere. My personal experience is that reading music has opened up so many doors / avenues / experiences that not reading / reading tab would have so that, on a purely pragmatic basis, seals it for me.

Bought his FI pedal - great comms - sent the same day as receiving the money - very well packaged and all as described. Was a bit worried as he only had one bit of feedback and it was quite a lot of money but ALL GOOD. Deal with confidence. Thanks!

Bas bought my pedal - great comms, totally hassle free. Deal with confidence! Enjoy the pedal!

I’d always use a compressor with monitoring LED’s and as many parameters as possible. I use the Empress Compressor but this one is pretty good too.

This is the place to get them done - great service and much cheaper. I even got my right one coloured red (red for right) so if I need to whip them in in a hurry mid set / song I can do it without trying to figure out which ear is which!! -15 shouldn’t cause you any trouble with hearing your band mates talk or hearing your bass. It just brings everything down to a manageable volume. Honestly believe that most people’s issues with them are psychological - too me a while to get used to having them in - felt odd / wierd being a bit isolated from band but it’s great when you get used to them. Somebody mentioned too about bringing the bass forward. My opinion is that when you use earplugs it really reduces all the top end of the cymbals which really strains the ears and as a result everything clears up and the bass becomes much clearer

Creeper bought my Wonderlove pedal - great comms, quick transaction, did all he said he would do. Another sale with another excellent BC-er. Deal with confidence Enjoy the squelchy noises!!

I use these https://m.thomann.de/gb/sommer_cable_spirit_xs_highflex_02.htm?o=61&search=1552464553 not cheap but super high quality and I’ve never had any issues with them on any of my boards. Don’t skimp on cables, you’ll regret it when you’re pulling your board to pieces 5mins before the gig trying to find the crackling from one of many leads!!

Good shout. Does it have a DI out too?

The Bass-switch is GREAT....BUT the two channels are not the same EQ wise....

Except the OP is in ears so I don’t think an amp head would work....unless it was able to run without a load then maybe....but still it’s a slightly clunky solution. He needs a board with a DI on really I think....

https://www.andertons.co.uk/providence-dbs-1-dual-bass-station-pedal-prodbs?LGWCODE=PRODBS;56375;6335&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImMTfmJH44AIVUuaaCh2oJgxfEAkYAiABEgLjcPD_BwE this would do the trick though you’d need a DI too. When you use only one input both channels can be used so you could have two separate EQ’s dialled in. I too have found this to be an issue - most two channel preamps are not really true two channel as the second channel often has less EQ control / is for distortion etc etc. Very frustrating!

Fantastic comms and pedal turned up in less than 24hrs. That’s serious customer service! Highly recommend

I suspect that really you’re looking for a small sample pad rather than a looper pedal? Doesn’t sound from your description that you want to record bass loops on the fly and play over them but rather trigger other pre-recorded samples?

Very cool! And totally my experience too with pretty much the same pedal. I wanted a volume control so could balance the inputs and didn’t need the fx buffer to be switchable. Quick discussion - adjustments noted - final price = same! I love it and all for £85. Go BOP!!! Another very happy customer!