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[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1459708290' post='3018831'] 5... 3 have sold them and 2 are still gigging them this year. [/quote] I have just ordered a Big Twin, I guess that sort of balances things. :-)

Well after some research on here, t'internet and direct with the shop... a new Barefaced Big Twin II has been ordered from Alex. I am already getting excited at the thought of plugging it in and playing that open B! A little gamble but the thirty day return policy gives me the comfort I need. A true 4 ohm 1600 watt cab to work with my 4 ohm 1000 Glock. Hmmmmm! Are we there yet?

Why are we in two separate photos? Or Hah! I told you I could freestyle! Or Oh! The key change is not now, when is it?

Weird, I really do not like the faux road worn approach but I do actually like this one. I think it is the appearance of a Fodera really being used.

My father ran / played in a number of bands as a semi pro drummer and was totally immersed in music outside of work. I grew up with some amazing pro musicians coming around to jam at home / sit in on gigs.

[quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1459499671' post='3017081'] 'If' your leads are wired out of phase, switching how you plug the cabs in would make no difference. The phase issue can be discounted if you used the same leads with the same cabs when you were using the TC amp. [b]"[/b][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][b]do I need to buy some 4ohm cabs? Am i only getting 250 watts from each cab due to them being 8ohm cabs?"[/b] - The difference between getting a few more 100w out of your amp using different cabs is a LOT smaller than you imagine. A generalisation is that to get double the volume, you'd need TEN times the watts... to be twice as loud as 100w you need to be using 1000w! However, stuff like cab sensitivity etc plays a lot bigger part. I think you've nailed that you just need to establish if your Glock is duff! [/font][/color] [/quote] Yup, same cables and good point re the power difference. It still boils down to this being a relative test as opposed to outright volume. I will take the Glock out at the weekend and try some different cabs.

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1459498537' post='3017065'] Have you got a "pad" or active/passive switch on it? If so, switch the pad off and/or the active/passive to passive. [/quote] 'tis a separate input on the Glock but thank you.

[quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1459449737' post='3016789'] Your speaker leads aren't out of phase are they? They shouldn't be if they work fine as a pair with the TC but have you tried to swap backwards/forwards to check? [/quote] I don't think so and have just changed per Neephied's suggestion to head to cab to cab. It has made no difference to the sound but would perhaps address any phasing issues. Next step is to try a different cab / cabs and see what happens then.

[quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1459447840' post='3016752'] All the advice is already given above but one thing I would say is that you can't ever compare one amp's volume to another by where (comparatively) you have to turn the dials to! Trace were the classic example of this whereby BANG everything was loud in the first couple of clicks of input/output gain... but after 30-40% of travel you didn't 'really' get much more volume. Conversely, H&K's bassbase range of amps required a lot more input gain to get to where a Trace would be BUT it did get louder once you'd matched/set the input gain correctly. [/quote] Fair comments, I do not think I am doing that, but my ears do run into trouble on the RH750 before 50% vol. I cannot get any near that threshold on the Glock even at two thirds volume in my 11x 10' music room/study. The fact that RR is gigging with the master at 45% vol suggests something is amis. Be it mismatched cabs or something else.

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1459434047' post='3016552'] If it helps, my 4ohm Blue Rock, which is connected to a 4ohm BF STwin is really loud. I usually play with gain around 2 o'clock, master around 11 o'clock and that's spot on with our drummer. Also bear in mind that the master is logarithmic, so gets much louder the higher you go, all the way to max. [/quote] Thank you. My gain is also around 2 o'clock; at 11 o'clock on the master I am just passed practice volume. Interestingly when I put my TC Spectracomp into the loop at around 25% comp the cab output level leaps up and the master needs bringing back down an "hour" Perhaps it is just my fingers or I am more deaf than I thought. I will seek out a 4ohm single cab and see if that makes a difference.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1459378094' post='3016069'] The old I have a job, so I'm better than you full time musicians. Lame. Blue [/quote] He did not say anything about being better than anyone, just that money is not a driver for his playing. I read that as being able to choose the music to play without having to consider the pay. Methinks some of your insecurities coming out.

I went to Bass Direct with a strict idea in my mind of the bass I wanted (Dingwall). I played several different basses from Dingwall to Spector to Roscoe to Ken Smith to Mike Lull and walked away with a make I had not even looked at before (Roscoe). Go to Bass Direct and perhaps The Gallery and try them all. Then decide on what suits you best. We all know what we like, only you know what you will like.

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1459350518' post='3015684'] Which model did you have ? [/quote] Cube 30 I believe. [attachment=215804:Cube 30.jpg]

I used to have one but did not like the tone so sold it to my bass tutor who loves it. One of his other pupils was also so impressed he sought out a second hand one. So perhaps my ears, but not for me

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1459337684' post='3015533'] It shouldn't matter anyway to be honest - the amp's speaker outputs are wired in parallel and I imagine most cab's wiring is also in parallel. It sounds like you've got the head set right (in 1000W@4 ohm/500W@8 ohm mode), so that eliminates the possibility that you're only getting 600W @ 4 ohms as per the other mode. I take it if you change mode it's even quieter? [/quote] I have not tried changing the mode, but will look at that too. Thx. Currently now trying to sort out a bricked TCE Spectracomp that arrived this morning. :-( I though bass was supposed to be fun!

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1459330946' post='3015433'] Try connecting the cabs you have the other way (one lead from the amp to cab 1, lead from cab 1 to cab 2) and see if that makes a difference. That should be parallel wiring and will present a 4 ohm impedance to the amp. Check the manual for your amp to see if there are any notes about how the speakon outputs are wired. I wouldn't get 2x 4 ohm cabs. In parallel they'll appear as 2 ohms (which I'm guessing your amp will be unhappy with). If by "daisy chain" you mean connect in series, I wouldn't. That will result in the impedances being added together to give you 16 ohms and you'll be even quieter. [/quote] [color="#0000cd"]I have tried the other way amp to cab to cab but will give it another go. Thank you. I am thinking of just one 4ohm cab as that will remove any confusion re ohms on my part![/color] [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1459331679' post='3015445'] Which version of the blue rock do you have? There are two, one can run at 2.7 ohms and one only goes down to 4 ohms... I can't imagine why either version of that head wouldn't be loud enough through 2x 212s though I have the blue soul which has a slightly lower power rating at 4 ohms and it's very very loud running through a single 210... something strange afoot methinks... [/quote] [color=#0000cd]Thank you too. The Blue Rock comes with two dip switches which can be set on or off. On being for 4-8 ohms and where it is currently set. I am struggling to understand the lack of volume although Roland Rock suggested that it does not get loud until after 12.00. I have tried that too but still relatively quiet. I have the gain set at 14.00hrs so just clipping. I think RR is relatively close to me so may PM him and take mine up to him for a side by side comparison. It will also tell me if my cabs are not a good match.[/color]

I am playing my Blue Rock amp (1000w @ 4ohms, 500w @ 8ohms) through 2 x TCE RS212 cabs (400watt, 8 ohm impedance). The cabs are connected to the amp via a speakon cable from each cab into the back of the amp. The volume is a lot lot quieter than from my RH750 amp. If I wanted to get the max from the Blue Rock do I need to buy some 4ohm cabs? Am i only getting 250 watts from each cab due to them being 8ohm cabs? Should I daisy chain the cabs rather than parallel them? As you can guess watts and ohms are still a mystery to me, despite reading the other threads on here. All i know is that this Blue Rock is extremely quiet compared to my RH750 but is supposedly more powerful.

It is always good to see money going to charity, but it was Stuart who got the answer right, not Mark. Therefore for me it was congrats to the pair of them and good to the two charities they both represented.

This is an update to an old shot. My current go to set up, but may change the cabs at a later date. [attachment=215449:Roscoe Rig.jpg] Roscoe Century Signature 5, Glock Blue Rock, 2 x RS212 cabs

Highbury Vale? Hmm, on that basis, has anyone had any Vanderkley cabs stolen today?

Interesting but the Fodera Anthony Jackson Presentation II starts at USD 35,000 so 2nd place at best. Nice history though.

Yes, it is me and I claim my prize!

Just out of interest was the delete request due to the idiot error or was the idiot error the actual posting of the original post? I need advice so as not to make the mistake myself

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1457874596' post='3002525'] Apparently Martin dropped a very large case containing several basses onto his arm breaking his wrist. He was still in hospital yesterday awaiting an operation as there were many splintered bones which need to be removed. Here's hoping for a swift recovery... [/quote] I spoke to the guy manning the Sim stand and understand the accident happened whilst unloading at the show.

I bought a weekend ticket just for the masterclasses and stage shows, however, I am staying put at home today to play with my new amp. Notwithstanding that, yesterday was just superb, I went to all the master classes and two stage shows and each one was superb. Particular highlights were Freakbass and Micheal Manring. Micheal's music is so way off what I usually listen to / play, I went in with low expectations. Big mistake; listening to him play and the sounds / tones he can get from a bass was an amazing experience. What he can do with a bass is bordering on magical. Dave Swift and Suzi Quattro were entertaining but with limited insights for me. In terms of the performances, I saw Rhino and Trujillo. Rhino was a little meh (not my cup of tea and too many band mistakes), but Mass Mental were just fantastic. The first couple of tunes almost had me leave due to the volume and the impact it was having on my heart (I have arrhythmia), but literally risking life I stayed on and I am so glad I did. Unbeeffingleavable I is all I can say. To mix metal with funk in the way they did was just brilliant and to finish with Mark King on stage with them was a true finale. In terms of stands, there was plenty for me to look at, but I was not in a buying or trying mode, so did not touch anything. The five string Overwater Perception, did look good, however, as did some of the Gillett Electro Acoustics. I spent some time chatting with Stuart Spector, what a nice guy, Chris from Smoothound and a few random people throughout the day. All in all a great day and already looking forward to next year.