Happy Jack

Yup, you're right Mike. I loved my T5 so much that I bought a PT4 (from Old Horse Murphy, unless my memory is failing me). Precision-shaped body (= P), but fitted with a pair of Lull's own Thunderbird pickups (= T), and it's a 4-string (= 4). I own more Precisions than is right for a grown man, including two all-original vintage Ps and two other Mike Lull Ps fitted with Lull's own Precision pickups. The PT4 is (IMHO) both the best sounding and also, due to having two pickups, potentially the most versatile. I say 'potentially' because I'm an all-knobs-to-max-and-leave-them-alone kind of guy so I don't do much actual, y'know, testing of these things. Tonally, the T-pickups take the PT4 into Seymour Duncan Quarter-Pounder territory ... like a Precision, only more so.

Just like it says ...

So it's official ... there really is such a thing as 'tone glue'?

I haven't seen that! When they interviewed me, I just assumed that would be the last I heard of it ...

Sleepless I am, sleepless.

I'm thinking of emailing M D Phillips to get his input on this ...

I may be old, but at least I got to see all the good bands ...

L'audace, et toujours l'audace, mon brave!

Nice one, mate. And the good bit is, the more you do it the better you get and the better it sounds and the more fun it is. Try singing BVs stepped back from the mic on other songs in the set - no need to tell your bandmates you're doing it. Eventually, you'll choose when to step up to the mic and join in properly.

In truth, if it's your first-ever fretless then it doesn't matter much what you buy so long as it's cheap. At best, it's a 50/50 whether or not you like it enough to keep playing fretless. I certainly wouldn't think in terms of messing about with a decent fretted bass. A very quick eBay search turned up: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Squier-jazz-bass-fretless/163194746006?hash=item25ff2a3496:g:JrAAAOSwXVNbbMvf https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Stagg-BC300-NS-Fretless-Fusion-Bass-Guitar-Natural/232886336485?epid=2256060733&hash=item36391b7be5:g:Rg4AAOSw1m5bI7RM https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Squier-Vintage-Modified-Fretless-Jazz-Bass-Custom/173470790738?hash=item2863aa3452:g:VB4AAOSwd8ZbRIhW Any of those three will be enough to get you started, and if you decide that fretless is not for you then you won't take a bath on the resale value.

But good luck with enforcing that.

In all fairness, what he sold was 'the world's oldest bass guitar that is not a Fender or a Rickenbacker or anything that most people would recognise'. I'll bet the world's oldest Fender would sell for a bit more than the price of a family car ...

Mind you, when I saw the title of the topic my first thought was, "well he was about 5' 10" and a bit chunky, so maybe 180lbs".

Feel free to share this one of me:

I do like that lino. A lot.

That sounds fair to me Lozz, especially given that half the song is likely to be in the energy level. But in a covers band it doesn't matter whether you're learning Brown Eyed Girl or Sweet Child O' Mine ... the rest of the band will expect you to learn the right bass line and get the song structure right, if only because they know that their audience will expect that. In that context, being able to hear the mistakes so that you can correct them becomes quite important.

Surely the guitarists spend 20 minutes noodling aimlessly at full volume while you're trying to talk to the drummer?

Drumming? Technique? What is this Forum coming to? You'll be telling us that guitarists are sensitive, supportive people next ...

Strangely enough, it does. And that's without putting my Fishman Plat Pro in line. Obviously it helps if you like the 'untweaked' sound of your DB, and the Elf offers nothing in terms of feedback control etc.

http://www.tomandwill.com/productdetail.asp?productid=46BS34-315

http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/library/Other music related/DB Transport

So there I was, browsing the eBay listings, when I came across a bass I'd never heard of before: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Danelectro-Wild-Thing-Bass-Guitar-Light-Weight-Twangy-Fun/223097088630?hash=item33f19f6a76:g:lqMAAOSwkyNbbakj And I looked at it, and I thought "that's interesting". And then I looked TWO listings down, and guess what was there: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Danelectro-Wild-Thing-Wildthing-Bass-Guitar-Back-friendly-light-weight/192459626280?hash=item2ccf7cd728:g:lYIAAOSwoRBaiaCP Don't you just love synchronicity? Good name for an album, that.

Does this mean that you now afford to buy those poor girls some clothes? I'll bet they'd each love a nice cardy ...

I haven't said 'Yes' yet mate ...