Happy Jack

That's a real shame. With just a bit more effort, he could have made quite a nice shovel out of that.

[quote name='SubsonicSimpleton' timestamp='1507811580' post='3388118'] Carole Kaye told me she deliberately played the major 6th over the minor chord to create tension when she recorded this. [/quote] Was the matter ever resolved?

In all fairness, some drunken idiots can add something to the evening. I'll just leave this here. The fun starts about 40 seconds in ... http://youtu.be/QojmLHWgBMw

http://youtu.be/l7MY_cdUL1E

+1 If you're just starting on bass, then string choice should be very low on your list of priorities, along with scale length, string spacing, nut material, and colour of the knobs.

[quote name='Bigjas' timestamp='1507794790' post='3387944'] Mine is an old and well used shovel, I had to knock of quite a lot of old cement and crud off it before I started. I like the old and worn look..... [/quote] Hmmmm ... I'm not sure about that. You may have been fooled by a piece of relic'ing. Are you sure that's not a brand new spade that has been 'treated'? There's a lot of this about on eBay just now.

And this ^ highlights what this discussion seems to have ignored, which is that the drivers for gigging are (or at least can be) wildly different depending on whether you want to play covers or originals. My own very limited experience is that I've played in several covers bands, and I've played as sideman to several songwriters. I don't actually write any songs myself. Within that very limited experience, covers bands seem to form with the specific intention of playing gigs in exchange for cash, while originals bands are more about "getting our music out there" and tend to be satisfied with a much smaller number of gigs, usually involving payment in the form of three beer tokens for each band member. There's no right or wrong here, no better or worse, but the two approaches are as similar and as different as driving a car -v- riding a motorbike. Personally, I really enjoy rehearsing and I simply love working up new material. Despite that, it would never occur to me to join or form a covers band unless there was a very serious intention to get a significant number of gigs - I'd see one a month as a bare minimum. Rehearsing is fun partly because it is intended to lead to a performance; rehearsing for its own sake would get very stale very quickly. I am still a member of both King Ralph and Karena K - originals bands. Those two bands together have generated maybe 10 gigs in the last two years. That's cool too, but only because I play another 30/40 gigs a year with covers bands!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1507724640' post='3387475'] I've seen that, a car hit a traffic island and overturned as I was driving towards it on the other side of the road. One of the wheels came off and bounced towards me. Luckily I was frozen with fear and did nothing - the wheel missed me. [/quote] I do hope that two men in overalls were carrying a large pane of glass across the road at exactly the right moment?

[quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1507721282' post='3387417'] I actually thought DV247 were based in the UK, so that threw me, but I guess they can probably ship from anywhere. [/quote] +1 ... I had no idea they were German.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-41580280

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1507649233' post='3386979'] I think blue has forgotten that playing an instrument is primarily a hobby in fact some genres have never looked to be profitable, no not jazz! I'm thinking of things like brass bands where the whole point was an evening out in the warm with friends rehearsing, if the gigs covered the cost of rehearsal space and a coach to get them to gigs that was a bonus. [/quote] Damn! Now someone needs to explain [i][b]The Floral Dance[/b][/i] to the people of Milwaukee ... (Blue - do NOT look for this on YouTube. It could be a life-changing experience.)

Harsh, but true ... in a live situation anyway. For home noodling and quiet practice, that's not a bad offer though.

[quote name='Old Horse Murphy' timestamp='1507488629' post='3385834'] Mine is G. I feel empowered and strong when I play it. It makes me happy What's your fave? [/quote] Staggered to see that it's only Horse and me who realise that G is the well-spring, the motherlode, the key to it all, along with (of course) being The People's Key.

No wonder no one wanted to join their band ...

[quote name='bassjim' timestamp='1507636774' post='3386875'] Apparently ...........Chuck Rainey who played the bass on Peg, knew the SD guys didn't like slap and had pretty much outlawed it. The band recorded live as a unit BTW. But Chuck said he knew that the chorus just needed it so every time the chorus came about he turned his back to the studio window and tucked himself down behind the screen a bit so he could be heard but not seen. Did the trick and the part stayed. [/quote] [quote name='Rich' timestamp='1507637628' post='3386880'] Yes, I saw that programme too Fascinating stuff. [/quote] Because that's how things are done in professional recording studios by big-name bands and top-level session musicians. I know it's a great story, but does anyone seriously believe for one minute that this sort of nonsense would have got past a pair of infamous control freaks like Becker and Fagen?

It's a good thing that Barefaced are so light ... it makes it easy to load them up with extra heavyweight features.

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1507638161' post='3386884'] And it may be of interest to note that it's not an entirely new phenomenon: Kate Bush is probably the most famous example of someone who decided she didn't much like gigging and just ensconced herself in the recording studio. There are groups like Big Big Train who seem content to play two shows a year. [/quote] [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1507638837' post='3386889'] Both have an established audience who eagerly await any recording or performance. Bit different to rehearsing in a railway arch every week and playing the Dog and Duck twice a year. [/quote] Wasn't there a popular beat combo back in the 60s who did something similar? I think they took over Abbey Road for ages and ages, and then released a record with a silly name? Someone help me out here ...

I've had no complaints ...

[quote name='radiophonic' timestamp='1507618247' post='3386732'] I can definitely see the attraction in the 'practice' being the main event. You get together and you play. That's the event. I enjoy playing gigs but there's plenty about [i]gigging [/i]that's a total PITA. It's nothing to do with hard work, it's about tedium, getting messed around and dealing with idiots. Hours of hanging around for one. City parking restrictions near venues. Arrangements bearing no relation to what you agreed. Sitting around in bars not being able to drink because of the playing and the driving. Sound guys not following the rider even though they've had it for three months (no monitors??). I spent an hour of Sunday evening just sitting on my rig out in the street because the promoter had given us the wrong load-in time. Then he let the band before us significantly over-run and let them stand around chatting on the stage afterwards, preventing us setting up, so our set-time (in the printed and electronic listings - it was a festival) was completely wrong and very late. As the icing on the cake, just as we were due to kick off, he announced that some urban artists (his mates, I assume) would be doing a two song showcase before we played. This basically killed the audience who were there for a world-music type programme. Just playing and recording definitely feels attractive a lot of the time. [/quote] Well there's gigging and there's gigging. Taking part in any multi-band experience organised by others means putting your fate in the hands of people who may be highly-competent, well-organised professionals. And then again, maybe not. I play these festivals from time to time, just for the craic, but I go in with eyes wide open and expecting sh*t treatment from brain-dead morons. For me, "gigging" means the pub & club gigs that I book with my main band(s), where we are the only act, we do the organisation ourselves, we supply all the equipment, and all we want from the venue is a crowd and some money.

Photonic Quantum Packets ... that's the way forward ...

I never really understood the lyric "[i]put on your wig hat baby, cos we're going out tonight[/i]".

My frontline rig for the last two years has been a TH350 into either a Barefaced 610 or a Barefaced Compact+Midget. My volume & gain controls are routinely more-or-less straight up and supply with more than enough volume to sit alongside a pair of electric guitars and a drummer who can't even spell "restrained". From your description, I'd say you were borrowing a rig with some major issues.

I played briefly with an old-school drummer whose kit was bigger than the rest of the band put together, double kicks, two floor toms, five rack toms (seriously), more cymbals than an occult convention. After our second (and final) gig together I took a close look at his kit before he broke it down. Four of the toms had heads that had never been hit, and most of the cymbals were as new. Go figure. Well at least he didn't have a 48" gong hanging behind him. *********************** At a venue where I've gigged regularly for years there's another regular band who are good enough that I go and see them on my "evening off" if they're playing. Their drummer has a similarly large & complex kit but he actually uses every bit of it, and in a tasteful sort of way. I mention him because he always gets to the pub a full hour before the others, so that he can spend the extra time setting up his kit and then mic'ing it up as if he is playing Glastonbury ... kick drums, overheads, clip-ons for every tom, the whole works. In fairness he sounds fantastic, but it's an awful lot of extra faffing for - I would have thought - a pretty limited benefit.

[quote name='Barking Spiders' timestamp='1507537422' post='3386057'] I'm surprised at the lack of love for slap. Not only do I love it but many of my fave players are well known exponents ... [/quote] Well there's your problem.