Happy Jack

[quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1461489236' post='3034977'] Several years down the line we have a BF 4x10 that looks exactly like every other 410 and yet that very design was criticised and lambasted by Alex et al for being the antithesis of all that was bad with bass cabinet design. [/quote] Barefaced [i]fanboi [/i]that I am, I have to say that I saw the 410 and thought ... Hmmmm ...

Wide palette of tones due to the tone knob. Priceless.

[quote name='sunburstjazz1967' timestamp='1461483463' post='3034894'] Yes but they are always told that they are wrong, ignored or declared liers looking at other threads, lol. [/quote] LOL indeed. The history of Barefaced has a lot to do with it ... essentially the company could almost be seen as a spin-off from Basschat, with Alex Claber proving his point / putting his money where his mouth was by actually designing, building and marketing his own cabs. For no reason that I've ever understood, that's left a legacy of ... best choose my words carefully here ... friction between Alex and a number of others with ... erm ... strong views on the subject. That in turn has spilled over into a daft feud between Barefaced fans (including me, though life's too short for feudin' and fightin') and the inevitable Barefaced haters. Just another day on t'Internet.

OK, so what can we see? That's not a Hofner body, nor neck, nor control plate. It might be a Hofner scratchplate, bridge and tailpiece. It certainly looks like a Hofner staple pickup though there were plenty of similar ones around. Neither the scratchplate nor the control plate were designed to go with that body, so what you appear to have is a cheap copy which has the had parts from other basses fitted to it, i.e. it's a Bitsa. It's clearly not recent. That neck plate looks pretty old to me - check the accumulated grime and wear on and around the screws. The engraving on it is far too fancy to be from a mass-produced instrument, and actually looks to me like the work of a jeweller or similar. The expression "Hoffner of London" is so obviously tongue-in-cheek that it must be a deliberate pisstake. Worth remembering that Hoffner is actually quite a common surname. So there we have it. Your bass was built from randomly collected parts by an English jeweller named Hoffner. He had red hair, walked with a limp, and loved parakeets. Elementary, my dear Rick.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-player-wanted/any-guitarist-that-would-like-to-play-bass/1165741984

When people talk about the "fretless sound" they usually mean either the Mwah effect or the swoops & slides that a fretless encourages. Neither of these can truly be achieved with a fretted bass (plus pedal or otherwise) though flatwound strings certainly help. I agree with those who have suggested just buying a (cheap) fretless. To help with the lined/unlined issue, try looking out for one of these: [URL=http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/media/Basses%20SOLD/Ibanez%202366%20FLB%201972%20SOLD/CIMG0127.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Basses%20SOLD/Ibanez%202366%20FLB%201972%20SOLD/CIMG0127.jpg[/IMG][/URL] That's an Ibanez 2366 FLB on the right (with a 2369 on the left), from 1972, and no budget-buster. Why that bass? Look at the fret markers. [URL=http://s1128.photobucket.com/user/h4ppyjack/media/Basses%20SOLD/Ibanez%202366%20FLB%201972%20SOLD/CIMG0142.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Basses%20SOLD/Ibanez%202366%20FLB%201972%20SOLD/CIMG0142.jpg[/IMG][/URL] The audience and your bandmates can't see them - you're a bass playing God! - but when you glance down at the neck you see something familiar and re-assuring.

Definitely planning to be there if at all possible, but can't commit until mid-May. If I'm there, it will be with an Andreas Zeller DB and a KK BabyBass (plus, if I'm feeling mischievous, a Takamine TB20).

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1461233906' post='3032650'] I would take everything you would for a gig (I always have just incase). However, walk in with just your bass, cables and effects. Let them know you've got the rig in the car just incase, there's no negative here it just shows you're prepared and professional. [/quote] That wouldn't work for me at all. I wouldn't be happy leaving outside the entire PA, electronic drum kit, lights & lasers, etc.

On the whole shop thing, obviously there are additional factors in play like shop rent, staff salaries, VAT, etc. So quite large additional factors then. If I were the owner/manager of a shop selling instruments, I'd expect to charge substantially more for a bass than a private vendor would charge, perhaps even as much as 50% more. Not because I'm a greedy fatcat but because I'd probably need to charge that much simply to get the same return as the private vendor. That said, prices such as this example are on another planet. I might contemplate paying this much for a pristine example played for 50 years by one of my favourite bass players, but by any normal standards this bass is a wreck. Take away the provenance (which means the new owner needs to keep all this proof of ownership and history in a safe place, and be prepared to argue the toss with potential buyers in the event of a future sale) and it's worth at most a third of the asking price. IMHO of course.

[quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1461188501' post='3032368'] I haven't seen EV mentioned & I've just ordered spme of there speakers ..I hope I haven't made a huge mistake . [/quote] That's because this topic was finished before the EV company was founded ...

Given that it's a refin, my first question would be, "when was the refin done?". The body is tatty enough that either the refin was done 20 years ago (IMHO that's acceptable wear) or it's one of those Godawful relic'd basses (in which case buy a new Roadworn or similar for way less money).

The only thing about this bass that really struck me was the sheer thickness of that body - God alone knows how much that thing weighs. As to the headstock, it looks to me to have been inspired by Shergold and Hayman.

I'll stop trying to book a room then ...

Things to avoid: [list=1] [*]What key was this one in? [*]Oh, I never listened to that. [*]I'm playing the 'Live In Newton Abbott' version off YouTube ... haven't you checked that out? [*]I thought we might do this one reggae-style. [*]I don't worry too much about tuning - it's only pub rock, right? [*]I find that envelope filters work with pretty much everything. [/list]

OK, so it's NOT a hotel, right?

Oh do behave!

[quote name='rodney72a' timestamp='1461162066' post='3032020'] Well, they never claim it being all original. 'Mention of famous band' - where? [/quote] The listing is entitled [color=#333333]EX PINO PALLADINO FENDER JAZZ BASS STACK KNOB - 1961 -VINTAGE FENDER BASS - WHO[/color] I'm pretty sure The Who qualify as a "famous band" to most bass players ...

[list] [*]Utterly Godawful condition - check [*]Absolutely NOT all original - check [*]Owned by famous musician but not particularly associated with him - check [*]Completely irrelevant mention of famous band - check [*]Ludicrously inflated price - double check with bells on [/list] What's not to like?

http://www.therisleypark.co.uk/ Bar / Restaurant / Function Suite ... no mention of a hotel, or room options, or a tariff. Just saying.

I suspect that you meant the Risley Hall Hotel?

The trouble with rehearsal rooms is that the first thing you see when you walk in is everything you need to play Hyde Park ... a 16-channel PA with a pair of powered 1x15 cabs and four 1x12 foldback monitors, two Marshall stacks for the guitarists, and (usually) an Ashdown or Behringer rig for the bass player. The room is slightly larger than your bedroom, but the drummer thinks he's in the stairwell at Headley Grange, the lead guitarist is trying to get both feet on the monitor at the same time, and the vocals are shrieking feedback in the PA's desperate efforts to be heard over the cacophony. All the bands I play in rehearse in my garage. I have more PA kit than you could shake a stick at, but it all stays in nice, neat boxes on the shelves. All vocals are UNamplified, which automatically limits overall volume to whatever the singer's voice can be heard over. We are too loud (probably) to play in the sitting room of a semi or a flat, but for a garage this volume level is usually very acceptable. If that's not acceptable to your neighbours, then for a grand or so you can put in sufficient sound-proofing (or at least damping) to make any garage or shed usable. On that sort of money, and assuming that you rehearse just once a week, payback for the sound insulation would be about six months.

http://youtu.be/ZkcFsRVL5fQ

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Useless reply: How can they tell them apart?