upside downer

Kashmir?

Jailhouse Rock?

Place Your Hands by Reef. Hate, hate, hate the song, the gruff vocal line, crap lyrics and the stupid rinky-dink melody. Quite enjoy playing it. WTF's that all about?

PiL tonight at Northampton Roadmender. A cracking band and always unpredictable due to Lydon's habit of forgetting where he is in the song!

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1456937128' post='2993791'] No. There's one more [/quote] Dear old Bill had a point but if it's done with humour the results can be entertaining. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxELSzay2lc Or... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gib916jJW1o "LUNG NEARLY GAVE!"

We're a 4 piece rock/pop covers band playing mainly in Northamptonshire. £180 to £200 when we were getting our foot in the door 3 or 4 years ago. Once we did that it shifted up to £250. Sweet.

[quote name='PaulGibsonBass' timestamp='1462953965' post='3047143'] Chelsea Dagger. Never fails to get the floor filled, girls bouncing, guys with their pints held aloft. [/quote] Yep, this always has the same response for us too. Also Blitzkrieg Bop gets the balding ex-punks up for a pogo that their calf muscles will regret the next morning.

[quote name='The-Ox' timestamp='1462231320' post='3041388'] are they easy to start playing? [/quote] It looks complicated to start with due to the unusual (to us westerners) layout of the fretboard, but once you get your head around the microtonal frets it really is quite easy to get going. Rather than trying to match what the Turkish chaps are doing, I've been happy so far with strumming along to eastern sounding tunes like Zep's Kashmir, Friends and Public Image Ltd's Ease, along with this bit of Americana by multi-instrumentalist David Lindley. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP5xfJXmd7c If you've got a bit of spare cash burning a hole in your pocket I'd recommend getting one, they really are great fun to play. I've taken to them far easier than I ever did a six-string. Got my long-neck bağlama off of ebay for £85 but I've seen cheaper available. There are many different types and sizes. Here's a link that's a really useful read as it's one of the few about the saz that's in English! http://www.khafif.com/rhy/saz/

Yep, the frets are tied on and made of something resembling plastic fishing wire. There are three courses of strings, two pairs and one triple. One of the pairs are tuned an octave apart, as is the triple course. I've tuned to Gg dd Aaa (known as bozuk düzen tuning) although there are supposedly over thirty different tunings! Many traditional Turkish musicians use a tuning that suits their own voice. It was seeing Lu Edmonds playing a saz with Public Image Ltd that got me interested in the instrument. Here's the man himself talking about his love of the saz. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVXHjgPvK3Q

[attachment=218046:WP_20160427_19_51_10_Pro.jpg] Have bought all these since Christmas, love the sound. From left - Baglama Saz, two Elektro Saz's and a Cura Saz.

Did it annoy a lot of Americans? Fine by me then.

Frijid Pink - House of the Rising Sun Department S - Is Vic There? Harry J Allstars - Liquidator

Not for the bass, just think he should be a bit more careful of what's on his laptop when taking the picture! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Epiphone-Viola-Bass-/222045172641?hash=item33b2ec73a1:g:K-8AAOSwFNZWyYJs

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1950s-MYSTERY-ELECTRIC-BASS-GUITAR-just-weird-/141926010659?hash=item210b730f23:g:FE4AAOSwP~tW4cUf

Are you a bass player, a bassist or a bass guitarist? As long as I'm not described as a crap bass player, useless bassist or hopeless bass guitarist then I really don't mind

She's really talented. But what a godawful racket.

What's He Building? - Tom Waits

"I know my place."

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1450699379' post='2934914'] The Pistols music didn't have any less substance than Elvis, Cochran or any other hit artist with a three minute three chord pop song. Where the Pistols did stand out was Lydon's lyricism. His work with The Pistols and subsequently with PIL is IMHO untouchable. The guy is inventive and original and has worked with some great musicians. Steve Jones became a highly respected session player and is reported to be one of the best rhythm guitarists around. [media]http://youtu.be/QZT0Pw-2Rrk[/media] [/quote] Spot on. Some people get too hung up on the whole 'meaning of punk' nonsense. There was some real great pop music done by some of those guys. And a lot of sh*t too. Just like any other era/genre.

[quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1450643426' post='2934581'] The Sex Pistols were the One Direction of their day. By which I mean that they were a manufactured (boy) band who meant everything to their target audience and very, very little to anyone else. That isn't an insult, if you think about. [/quote] [quote name='upside downer' timestamp='1450644136' post='2934590'] You could say that about absolutely anyone. [/quote] [quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1450646428' post='2934609'] Um, you took the noun out of my sentence. That rather kills the context. The point I was making is that they were a triumph of marketing over musicality, which still isn't an insult unless you really want it to be. [/quote] I think every band or act in the history of pop music has had various levels of manufacturing going on. 'Wear this', 'Sing that', 'Pout into this camera', 'Punch that journalist'. The punk bands were not immune to this manipulation either.

[quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1450643426' post='2934581'] band who meant everything to their target audience and very, very little to anyone else. [/quote] You could say that about absolutely anyone.

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1450639069' post='2934528'] underrated innovator? personally i always thought of him as a bit of a gobby chancer [/quote] The underrated innovator line in this topic was tongue in cheek, probably should've made that clearer. Still, the usual half-truths of Sex Pistols' folklore remain intact in some of the comments. Someone else playing bass backstage? Nah, if Sid was particularly bad on any given night they'd just turn his amp off. Quite innovative, really! Fella could play in a Dee Dee Ramone root note style. Viv Albertine of The Slits stated he learnt the whole of the Ramones' first album in one night whilst off his head on speed. There are bootlegs of him playing adequately enough to get by and some of him being total crap, most of those are down to him being strung out on heroin. Rotten did gob on stage a lot, something he puts down to his childhood meningitis illness and the constant need to hack something up. Up to you if you wanna believe that. He still spits onstage today when he performs with PiL. Siouxsie Sioux said she'd never seen a frontman blow his nose into a handkerchief on stage until she saw John. The vomiting myth is something the band were supposed to have done at a Dutch airport once but that was a phony story put about by probably McLaren. He briefly managed the New York Dolls some years before and guitarist Johnny Thunders did actually ralph at an airport once so it's likely that story was borrowed to keep the outrage/bullshit up.

Mate got a 6-string for Christmas. He got bored of it mainly because he broke two strings immediately and had no Bert Weedon Play In a Day type book to show him chords etc. I sat downstairs one night while he was entertaining his girlfriend upstairs and plonked away on the E and A strings along to Never Mind the Bollocks. Realising that I was playing something vaguely resembling what was on the record thought I'd better try a proper bass out. Went to the shop a few days later. Sat down with this long-necked heavy monster. That was the bass, not the shop assistant. Don't remember the brand, only remember it being red. Plucked the E string. THRUUUUUUMMMMMMMM............. Oh man, I'm having some of that!

[quote name='timmo' timestamp='1450213352' post='2930683'] The Bee Gees best years were probably on the wane by 1981 [/quote] So were Peter Sutcliffe's

Sod it, gotta have an alternative to the ongoing JamersonJacoMaccagate