[quote name='bertbass' timestamp='1454259198' post='2967931'] 
A [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Kay Tulip bass?  That's more rubbish than a rubbish thing that's really rubbish.  The [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Wilson Sapphire is a great and very playable bass with a slim, fast neck, pickups might be a bit on the low output side though.[/font][/color] 
[/quote]Absolutely 100% correct   That damned quirk in my personality told me it was a good idea,the one I had was put on the bonfire but the neck still came back to haunt me    
They were responsible for more folk giving up than starting up   Should be forced upon anyone saying today's beginner basses are naff.