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Here's an example. I was at this gig and it was ruined by people with damned phones. Who wants to see this quality?

You are so right mate. I like to enjoy the night and yet folk insist on filming it. I have yet to find a live video that was filmed on a phone on Youtube that is any good at all.

I don't care what anyone says, I hate being pushed around at a gig. The gigs I go to don't usually have this apart from a few individuals. I can look around and most other people are annoyed if someone is being pushy or over exuberant. As I say, the roar and cheer after a song is what the band love. I have played at gigs and people are standing watching. If I hear a roar at the end my heart fills. If I hear silence I think oh stinky poo!

I agree. Years ago we went to see The Georgia Satellites. They were great but they played on and on. The band think they are doing this for the fans and to be fair a few up the front were loving it but they forget that we have been standing for probably three hours before they came on plus queueing up outside. By the time they have played an hour we are ready for the off.

If they are selling a product and someone buys it you are in their debt for helping them. I'm sure the bands would appreciate this. Certainly the smaller bands.

You don't need to jump around moshing to show appreciation for a band. Some of the best gigs I have been to the crowd are standing nodding but the roar after the songs is what the band loves. They can see people enjoying the gig by clapping, nodding their head or bouncing. All perfectly acceptable forms of enjoyment.

Bands rely on their fans. Have you never heard a band say it's thanks to you that we have done such and such? Edit- Bands are nothing without their support. They would wither and die and lose their contracts.

Indeed I have discovered many "new" bands by going early and catching them.

We live 100 miles from Glasgow which is the nearest place where you will get a decent live band playing ( some have come here but not that many) so we always book accomodation rather than travel back and make a mini break of it. It means we only go to see bands we really want to see rather than turn up on a whim as I would if I lived in the city. When I was younger we used to travel down and back on the same night. When you have to go to school/work the next day that can be a bugger. These days we are more sedate.I remember being at school and going down to Glasgow on the train to see someone who I can't remember. We caught the mail train back which got in at 5 am then I had to go to school. It was worth it in those days.

You are obviously quite young. I still enjoy going to Metal, Grunge and Rock gigs. I don't begrudge those down the front enjoying the gig as they want to but if I'm standing further back and someone barges me I get annoyed. I contribute as much to the atmosphere by bouncing around and clapping and cheering. I just don't like barging anymore. Why should I be disallowed to go to Rock gigs just because I don't want to join a mosh pit? Many of these bands owe me as I have supported them since they began. The newer ones owe me as well as I might buy their music on the strength of their performance. They are there to entertain me not the other way around.

I so wanted to play this. I asked the band to learn it and my guitarist mate who is massively passive aggressive didn't learn it as he had leaned some other song. Anyway one night he started playing the riff. Everyone recognised it and cheered. Still he never learned it fully. I was annoyed.

My Mum hated Vera Lynn too. She was born in '33 so was alive during the war. Her dad went off to war and was captured by the Japanese, spent 2 years in a camp and then was torpedoed by the Americans. She loved Neil Diamond and Glenn Campbell.

I often think this too. When Im 85 I will still like Slipknot and Rush etc. Im sure that will seem strange to youngsters in the future who will be into some kind of hip hop jazz fusion type rubbish.

That's just lovely. I wish there was a care emoji for comments. It's great that you can bring happiness to others when you play and older people often get forgotten as needing entertainment.

Songster is a great tool for learning but take care. Lots of their tabs are wrong. Right notes but asking ridiculous movements over the fretboard. I sopped using it after finding some songs were ridiculously hard to play when the same notes can be found by moving up the strings.

Believe me it was quite scary at one point and totally out of control. When you move four or five feet with your feet not touching the ground your heart is in your mouth. As I say, some people slipped and fell. You relied on those around you staying upright to hold you upright. Whenever anyone fell EVERYONE tried to help them as best they could. After that they capped the amount of people who could attend those massive festivals. I think there are big barriers nowadays. I haven't been back since.

I know! It must have been one of those big efforts you held on your shoulder. Hardly obscure.

My dog is named after Izzy. Everyone thinks he's a girl. I have to keep saying it's not short for Isabel!

How this guy filmed it on the technology of the day in that crush I will never know but we ended up just about level with this guy but on Slash's side.

My old mind is wandering, '88. I thought it was '87. What a gig but what a tragedy.

I respect if there is a mosh going on that if you don't want any part of it you stay away and let them enjoy it in their own way but at other gigs where everyone is just enjoying the band and standing watching or perhaps nodding along to the music and one knob starts pushing and shoving and trying to get a mosh going amongst 40-50 + year olds can be very, very annoying. I realise I am getting older but I remember being part of the huge crush at Donnington in '87 when Guns n Roses played their set. My mate and I made our way right to the front and it was very scary as the crush was incredible. Two poor young lads lost their life that day and I witnessed stretchers and ambulance men being passed over the crowd towards the front. The papers would later print that emergency services had been stoned and harassed. Total rubbish as far as we saw. Everyone was helping those who fell. I remember in the crush one guy slipped beside us. Everyone helped to get him up and I heard this guy beside me saying that's my leg you've got. I was only trying to help but it was rather funny.

then I heard this one after

I heard and fell in love with this song and it was a while before I found the original.

Well if a bass player picked up a guitar at gig for the first time what would that sound like?

I had heard this long before I heard the original. I didn't know it was a cover as I hadn't heard Neil Youngs version. I like Neil but wouldn't call myself a fan and certainly have not heard much of his vast back catalogue. This one is much better anyway!