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Some amazing discoveries here.

I think my trouble is I still love seeing bands live but I have grown old enough to hate the pushing and shoving that goes with it. Also I love new music so this brings me into contact with young 'uns. Not a good mix. Young energetic drunk people and older, more sedate less drunk people. Another occasion I remember was again, in the Cathouse. We were watching The Dead Daisies and the bass player Mark Mendoza was prolific in his throwing of pics into the audience. This girl in front of me had collected about six by desperately diving in every direction. one hit me on the shoulder, I bent to pick it up and was about ten inches from doing so when this foot stamped on it claiming it. I looked up in disbelief and this same woman was looking at me with a watery smile as if to say you were too slow. Another pic came flying and she tried again to get it but a guy next to me picked it up. She put on her sad eyes and I couldn't believe it. He gave it to her! I thought what a desperate, selfish beach. I wasn't that bothered but a little momento of the gig would have been nice. I got one the next time we saw them play. I forgot to say, said girl was no girl. She was a full blooded middle aged "rock chick"

You obviously haven't met my brothers in Law. Both brilliant guitarists and brilliant bass players. My ex guitar teacher toured with a well known band as bass player.

We went to see Seether a while back and the gig was ruined by hundreds of phones being held aloft. One girl even had an effin iPad! How we laughed when we saw that she was video'ing herself. All the resulting videos invariably end up on Youtube and are shite!

I have seen gigs where you find a tiny little girl trying to see and I will gladly let her go in front of me. On another occasion a couple of very drunk girls pushed through. one was pointing and gesturing that she was deaf. It was a scam to let people allow them through. I saw them being chucked out later.

We were at a gig in the Cathouse in Glasgow a while back and anyone who knows it will know that it's not that big and will mostly allow people a decent view of the band. This guy who was clearly about 6'5" pushed down to the front and stood there. Everyone was shaking their heads and I thought what a selfish twatt!

I have found this. The difference is even although they are standing, they can't push you out of the way. I went to see Jethro Tull a couple of years back and everyone stayed sitting. Very refined audience.

I was at a festival in Milwaukee years ago. Summerfest it was called. Wolfmother were playing and I rushed around to see them. Unfortunately they had put benches out, which during the day had provided a nice seat for everyone to watch the bands. Once night fell and the bigger name bands came on everyone just stood on the benches. If you didn't have a bench space you had no chance of seeing the band. Even a tall person wouldn't be able to see. I heard the band but couldn't find anywhere to see them.

Ah, now all seated events are vastly different. People have manners and don't push or shove.

I love going to see live music being played by real musicians. These days we prefer slightly smaller, more intimate gigs. The trouble I find is that people push and shove you to get a better view. Manners go out the window. We were at a gig and we met a guy that we knew. He had a friend that got talking. During the gig everyone was reasonably spaced out and enjoying the band. This friend of the friend came and said hi. He then proceeded to push past and stand right in front of us. I thought what a Richard! On another occasion we were at the Alice n Chains gig in Glasgow. Again, everyone was reasonably spaced although tightly but it was amicable and friendly. All of a sudden these young folk came barging through spilling my pint and fighting their way to the front. I was raging and pushed one of them back. This girl started screaming in my face and I started screaming back at her. Neither of us could hear the other so it was quite comical. What annoyed me was the fact that I was young when this band started and these upstarts hadn't even been born probably. What gives people the right to barge past others at gigs? Occasionally you hear bands slagging people for fighting in the crowd. It's probably because someone barged past someone else and they were not happy. There, that's my middle aged moan.

I agree, I can never understand why he gets a bad press. He does exactly what the songs need. I'm not a huge fan of U2 and I can't stand Bonio but they have come out with some great stuff over the years

Yeah, have a look at this. Dead easy but I find the pinky stretch hard to do fluidly. Im used to doing higher octaves with my pinky held against my ring finger. In this your fingers are all in a wide claw and I find I have less control over my pinky that way. For years I had never thought my pinky was weaker as I have used it comprehensively over the years, just never in this stretch.

I am/was the singer in our band as well as being the bass player. I found I could eventually do both to a decent level in most songs. It takes lots of practice. You have to learn the bass part until it is pure muscle memory, then learn the lyrics until you know them back to front and finally you have to slowly marry the two. As I say most songs but All These Things I've done by The Killers always stumped me. Just the verse. Listen to its offbeat rhythm. I simply couldn't get it right. None of the band members noticed that I simplified it and nobody in the audiences cared but I cared and I was always ashamed to play that. it used to go down a storm too.

We used to finish with a fast version of the Last of The Mohicans theme tune. The bass part was easy but it was repetitive double finger plucking. I used to always get cramps in my fingers. One or both would develop trigger finger and I was helpless. I started playing with a pick for that one. All was well until I dropped the pick!

Girls and Boys by Blur. If I play that properly ie. F-Fsharp -G to G octave it is such a stretch. I can duff it easily E- F sharp-G to G octave but my pinky stretch is struggling doing it the right way. I need to practise that one. It's not hard just a big stretch.

@Helerzo. I prefer

Amen to that brother. If it sounds good leave it as it is, don't womble all over it.

Well that's me fecked!

To be fair he was also the bass player and singer in his band and they were pretty good I have to admit. I just hated getting criticised from a young upstart beginner when I had been on the scene playing for years.

The best way to learn is by playing with better musicians. If you are the best you can get dragged down.

I remember years ago a guy who was a bass player and the younger brother of a workmate of mine came in to see us play. The workmate later told me that he had said they are ok but the bass player is playing easy stuff so that he can play and sing. I was quite miffed as we were playing stuff that went down well and had no other reason for playing these songs . I hadn't even considered whether it was easy or not. We did play some stuff that was harder to play and sing and he obviously didn't see that. Later his band started to get gigs and they started under cutting everyone price wise. This caused some bad feeling with other bands. I have seen me spend ages and ages trying to get bass parts down where I could sing over it. I was quite disappointed in this attitude.

Do you honestly believe that Mick Jagger wrote that as a racist song? I see it as the opposite. He is telling a story of another time, not glamourising it. Just the same as movies showing slaves being brutalised. Do we see those film makers as being racist? It's art describing events that happened before, when things were different.

J'aime plus!