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Greg Edwards69
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Biker club in Dagenham on saturday afternoon. We were a singer down and a dep drummer (Kelly, one of my oldest friends from school with whom we formed our first band when I was 16 and he was 14 - he later turned pro for while as a session drummer). Pretty easy gig. Classic rock covers and I got to sing lead on a couple of songs to give Jenny a break. But the weather was temperamental - it started raining whilst we were setting up under the marquee, and got a little chilly during our set. Unfortunately, we had to cut the second set shorts. We were asked at very late notice if we could start earlier as the band on after us had another gig in the evening ("Dennis and Dave" - Dennis being Dennis Stratton of Iron Maiden fame). We thought we were ready to go around 15mins early, but we had a problem with the desk. It took 15mins to work out it was a dodgy aux lead feeding the IEM. Still, we started as soon as possible, with a quick wee break in the middle and carried on till 3pm with no problems and we played well. We packed down in record time and the sun came out just as Dennis And Dave started playing, so they had a bigger audience than us. Oh well.
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Yep, they’re going back for replacement. That “chink” sound in the left earpiece was definitely a sign of a problem. When playing by bass through them there’s a slight bit of distortion. Perhaps a faulty BA unit? -
Just received my ZS10 Pro X within the last hour. I'm at work so I can't test them properly, but listening to a couple of familiar test tracks (inc Yello - The Race - always a good test) I can immediately hear that they are less aggressive than my non-pro ZS10's. And the low end is nice and full, with sub-bass extension without getting bloated in the low mids. There's still a V shape, but not too extreme. I'll try them out tonight with foam tips and my Helix if I get a chance. It's nice that they are much smaller than my old ones too. I'll likely use them this weekend, but even if they sound great, I may still return them. The left earpiece make an annoying 'chink' sound everytime I touch it in my ear. It sounds fine, but I can quickly see that getting annoying, not to mention, could be a sign of a manufacturing fault that could get worse.
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FWIW, I got a pair of the Moondrop Aria's (open box deal on eBay) and they went straight back as the left one was barely working. I ordered these before EBS_Freak's reply explaining the difference between audiophile reviews and musicians' needs, so I'm not sure I'll order another set. It's a shame as they fit really well, but judging the sound quality with just one earpiece working was impossible. As such, I ordered the KZ ZS10 Pro X as an upgrade from my original non-pro ZS10s. As I mentioned before, my original one have a harsh, aggressive treble that is extremely tiring. Allegedly, the Pro X design fixes a few of the tuning issues. Whilst it retains the V shape, it has less aggressive treble and better bass extension. I don't mind that it's got a V-shape profile. To my mind, this could be a benefit, as it sort of replicates the fletcher munson effect. If I can tweak my Helix patches with these, it should translate better to FOH - I think my presets are possibly too bassy at the moment due to the headphones and frfr speaker I've been using - it's certainly seemed more apparent since we added a sub-woofer to our PA. I was looking at the Sennheiser IE-100 too on Dave_Bass5's recommendation, and I was torn between them and the ZS10 Pro X. Maybe I'll get a set of them as well at some point. It won't hurt to have a couple of pairs of IEMs
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It's also easy to pull the volume knob off if you're heavy-handed with it, as one of our singers discovered when she was using mine, and dropped the plastic knob on the floor. Luckily I found it when we were packing up.
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Funnily enough, I discovered the Bass Bros website for the first time this morning. I don't know if there's some throttling going on at work, but it's a painfully slow-loading website. Slow to the point of being unusable.
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That was one of the first things I noticed too. Where there is no obvious button, my instinctive behaviour is to click the product image, not the descriptive caption underneath it. I also found the search filters a little cumbersome. Most other similar websites don't require you to click 'apply' once choosing the appropriate filter, it should automatically apply. Maybe we should feed these small, but impactful usability issues back to them to help make the new website better.
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Thanks the reply @EBS_freak. Yes, the ZS10 is still a great gateway IEM and I now better understand the benefits of multi-BA drivers for headroom in a live environment. However, as I mentioned several posts ago, I have the original non-pro versions. These are just BA drivers, not a hybrid design with a dynamic driver for better low-end. As such, I'm finding them a bit light in the low end and a bit aggressive/harsh at the high mid area. I was considering getting the ZS10 Pro X as an upgrade, but I kept seeing the Moondrop Aria pop up on reviews. Admittedly, it didn't occur to me at the time the difference between listening to recorded music and live music from an aux bus and the headroom issue. However, I already found an open box set at a good price on ebay before reading your reply and ordered them. But I'm quite hopeful. My bass always has compression on it, I don't drive my Xvive U4 receiver too hard, I use comply foam tips for better isolation, and the Aria's are rated at a seemingly impressive 122spl @1khz. Hey, if I don't like them, I can return/sell them/keep them as spares and get the ZS10 Pro X instead. It's not a lot of money to lose. That's the great thing about these inexpensive solutions, you can try a few before settling. And it's always handing to keep a few lying around for spares or quiet practice at home.
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Indeed. As someone mentioned on a reddit thread I saw earlier (I've really gone down a budge IEM rabbit hole): Zs10 pro was my first “audiophile” device and it was awesome at first, until i realized that “detail” does not mean “aggressive treble” I agree with that sentiment. I wondered why my ZS10's sounded harsh in the top end when we upgraded from our cheap, crappy G4M IEM. They are! I keep seeing the Moondrop Aria's popping up in various interweb threads, so they are definitely on my shopping list. Just need to find a good deal for them.
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As posted on another thread, this might be helpful to some of you Just found this resource, that appears to be most helpful. He's also put a sub $100 video review together. https://crinacle.com/rankings/iems/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks6PGwD6Cjo&ab_channel=crinacle On the strength of that, a set of Moondrop Aria IEMS appear to be the one to get.
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Just found this resource, that appears to be most helpful. He's also put a sub $100 video review together. https://crinacle.com/rankings/iems/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks6PGwD6Cjo&ab_channel=crinacle On the strength of that, a set of Moondrop Aria IEMS appear to be the one to get.
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Yes, we're gradually getting there, to the point that our last gig a couple of days ago was the first one that we didn't set up the backline at all and relied on the IEM. To keep things simple, we're all using the same mix. 3 of us are using the Xvive system from one transmitter and the others are wired with Behringer P2 packs, all running off a passive splitter. I think the mix needs slightly adjusting, but it's okay, and difficult to keep everyone happy. To be honest, I think all of us are in the 'a little bit of everything' camp in terms of mix, so a mix that's representative of what's out front is fine. Whilst I'd love to have discrete control over my personal mix, it will need considerable investment. That said, I believe we have access to an X-Air stagebox mixer, but it will take a lot of time and work getting it gig ready. We've just got our existing system working nicely, so baby steps for now!. The other problem is simply finding the time to do this work. It's difficult enough getting us all in the same room together as it is! The only thing I think that can improve things as they are is replacing my IEMs. I'm using the original KZ ZS10 IEMs. Not the pro versions. After looking into it yesterday, I see they are a little weak and unrefined in the low end and known for being slightly shrill. I think I may invest in a set of ZS10 Pro X units that appear to have a better profile for bassists. Otherwise, I hear good think about the CCA C12 units too. We've settled on channel 5 for the Xvive U4. It's completely clear from the 4 channels of one of the guitarist's U2 wireless unit*, and it doesn't seem to interfere with the singer's wireless mic since we discovered that the U4 and mic transmitter must be kept at least 3 meters apart. *That said, he had a dropout on his IEM on Sunday. Not sure why, but it came back after a minute, and the rest of us were fine, and I was standing a metre away from him. But I made sure all of our tablets and other devices were set to airplane mode, which may have been the culrprit.
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A sunday evening wedding for us last night (so glad I booked the morning off work today!). A beautiful converted farm venue called Apton Hall in Rochford, so, nice and local for most of us. The drummer was a guest at the wedding, and one of the guitarists lives about a 3min drive away so they could get in there early in the morning to do the main setup of drums and PA. Since we added an EV sub and upgraded our IEM system, we've been relying on our backline a lot less lately. So we decided this would be a good opportunity to eschew the backline and rely only on the PA and IEM. I'm pleased to report it worked well and was incredibly liberating to walk into the venue with a bass on my back, Helix in one hand and a guitar stand in the other. No need to fight over plug sockets at the back of the stage, just one power lead, a guitar lead, XLR to stage box, quick line check and I was set up. Great crowd who were up for a boogie from the start. Unusual set list for a wedding, however. The bride and groom and their friends are into more alternative music, so they asked us to play our party stuff in the first set and rockier stuff in the second, which is contrary to what we'd usually do, not to mention some of the requests we'd never normally play at a wedding (such as By The Way and Oughta Know) but I was happily surprised how well they went down with their guests. Rolled into bed around 1am, still glad I booked the morning off today! The next one is in a couple of weeks for a biker club in Dagenham - for a complete change of pace!
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My band’s drummer would disagree
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I’m surprised. It seems to work every time we play it. Admittedly, it appears to be one of his lesser known tracks.
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We played "Edge of Seventeen" once.... only once.
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Same here, it's quite astouding the number of times the noise level alert goes off (also annoyingly when I'm using the hand dryer at work - apple really ought to fix that. I note you have a set of AirPod Pro's too. If you don't use IEM in rehearsal, try the AirPods set to transparency mode - they work wonderfully as digital earplugs as they have a limiter built-in set to around 85db by default, but I believe it's adjustable.
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This sounds awfully like the "amp in the room" discussion that often pops up on modeling threads and SM channels.
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One of the most important factors in a bass guitar for me other than tone and playability is the ergonomics - particularly body shape, balance, and weight. In this case, I feel there is some overlap between form and function. The design or 'form' of the bass' shape is part of its function. Similarly, I care about some aesthetics in a functional manner. Whilst I prefer the look of maple fretboards with big, high-contrast markers from a beauty standpoint, I also like them because I can see them better!
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I'm suprised Def Leppard haven't made the cut. They've been touring "Hysteria" in it's entirety for a few years now, on and off.
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Similar to Hugh Macdonald until Bon Jovi made him an official member a few years ago. For years he was an uncredited member of the band. There was a guitarist in wet wet wet who was an unofficial member for years too.
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This ^^. I've had a couple of 5 strings (and played one exclusively for many years) and a 6 string bass. But I realised at some point a number of years ago that I'm happier on a 4 string bass, so that's all I own. If you're happier playing 5, 6, 12, or 100 strings, then play it, learn it and enjoy it. Music theory doesn't change depending on the number of strings. FWIW, if I need the extended lower ranger offered by 5 strings I use a pitch shifter to simulate BEAD tuning. It's easier for me compared to switching to another bass. Although It forces me to think about what I'm doing and occasionally catches me out.
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As an aside. IIRC, Metallica gave $1m to Robert Trujillo for joining the band.
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I played clarinet and sax in my youth in orchestras. My subs payment went towards running costs such as sheet music and rehearsal space hire. I wouldn't expect to pay for somebody else's equipment, however.
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What if you're in more than one band, or looking to join another, and you've got own the wrong part of the PA for the band? Heck, join enough bands and every member of every band will each own a complete PA system!
