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01. Silverfoxnik: Roscoe Beck V, Wal Pro2e, BC Rich Eagle, Fender Jazz V Deluxe, plus my recently acquired Eden Metro Rig 02. Merton: Status Retroactive, Mikey's Singlecut Fanned-Fret Prototype, LH500 and Barefaced Vintage 03. OBBM: StRay5, MB F1, UL212, something else. 04. Hamster: BFM Omni15 tallboy, Barefaced Compact, Fender P with Thumper & Villex PTB 05. Alex Claber: '87 Warwick Streamer, RIM Custom 5 with 36" scale and Q-Tuners, Avalon U5/QSC PLX3002, GB Shuttle 6.0, Barefaced Compact, Big One, Midget, Midget T, maybe Big Baby. 06. Johnnylager: Spector Euro 4LX, KSD Jazz, LH-1000, Barefaced Big Juan, DHA Custom Shop VT2-Twin-EQ-Bass with Tech Tube valves & whatever other effects I have at the time. 07. Happy Jack: Lightwave Sabre VL, Hofner 500/1 (1964), Hofner 500/5 (1959), PJB Bass Buddy + headphones. 08. MacDaddy. Custom Shuker (hopefully!) and possibly Hamer Blitz or Iceni Zoot. 09. Stingrayfan: G&L Tribute L2000, Yamaha BB614, Hartke LH500, Warwick 4x10 10. Chris B 11. Cetera: Pre-Kramer Spector NS-2, Wal Mk1 Fretless, Fender/AllParts 70's Jazz, Tech21 Landmark600, GenzBenzNEOX212T 12.Andyonbass. ACG Recurve, ACG J-Type, Pair of BFM Omni 10.5's 13.Waynepunkdude Fender Jazz + DHA-DI-EQ 14.Jakesbass Alembic MK5 Deluxe, German Blockless Wonder 1880 Double Bass (and the '78 Jazz if anyone wanted a go) 15.51m0n (& Plux if he's not gigging): Bergantino AE410, MarkBass sa450, Focusrite Compounder, Roscoe Century Std V, (If Plux isnt gigging) Berg HT210, HT115, Hartke LH500 16. Floyd Pepper - Markbass LMK, Bergantino HT112 & EX112, Stingray '91 2eq, Lakland DJ4, Stagg EDB, Epiphone Jack Casady and a Fender '54 RI Precision 17. davidmpires - Markbass F1, Barefaced Compact, Spector Euro LX 5, T-Bass by Status 18. molan - MTD 535, Spector NS5XL, Zon VB4, Alembic Rogue, Traben Bootsy Signature (!!!), Epifani UL502 & some Berg AE1x12's + who knows what else I may have by then 19. Platypus - Alleva Coppolo Jazz 5, Celinder Jazz 4 fretless, Tecamp Puma 1000 + a cab of some sort. 20. Prosebass - Current Builds at the time, Hofner S7B, Laptop , sequencing software , + amp and cab

What an impressive cast ! Its quite a way down there but count me in. I'll bring whatever I am building and have finished plus my Hofner S7B , Laptop , Guitar Rig etc.....

Nice work and very interesting. I am interested in the 22 caliber as I love small things, but have only heard it used with a guitar , do you have any sound clips ?

Some of my favorites..... Mick Karn..... Mick Karn....brilliant video filmed in one take. Chris Gartner Tony Franklin

[quote name='lemmywinks' post='549419' date='Jul 23 2009, 09:33 PM']Ah i thought they were some of your basses. Some stunning ones on that site though![/quote] My sheds not that big.... I have asked the Mrs if I can use the conservatory but shes non too agreeable.... Some nice designs though and its always good to take ideas in from other builders.

Sorry to hear of you being scammed and glad that it has been sorted. Paypal and ebay have got their act together on these issues although the proceedure is rather long winded. Any item that is not as it was described will virtually qualify automatically for a refund. Just remember secondhand goods are treated different and if a seller describes an item as "mint" paypal view this as subjective and will generally rule in the favor of the seller if you find a tiny scratch for example on a bass, or a small dent. They allow for due wear and tear on secondhand goods irrespective of how they are described so be careful if you want a "mint" secondhand bass. Obviously misleading statements are treated as such and remember to leave well alone if you get a bad feeling about a certain item. Several people have stated that you only get a refund if the money is still in the persons paypal account. This is incorrect if the seller has "Paypal Protection" When you raise a dispute with paypal as a buyer they immediately put your payment on hold irrespective of whether the seller has any money in their paypal account. If they have a zero balance and the amount is say £500.00 then their paypal account will immediately show (minus) - £500.00. They then contact the seller who has 20 days to offer you a refund. If the seller offers you a refund take photos of the item and send it back insured with a signed for service and very well packed. Once the seller has received it back , and has informed paypal you will get a refund. If you still don't get a refund all you need do is provide paypal with proof of delivery and you will get your refund. If a seller refuses to give a refund you can escalate the proceedure and paypal will ask for more details from both the buyer and seller and then make a ruling on the case. Generally this is in favor of the buyer, but in my dispute case with a Hong Kong buyer with secondhand goods worth £780.00 paypal ruled in my case and the buyer did not get a refund. If the seller does a runner and was covered by paypal protection you will still get a refund and paypal will persue the seller through legal channels. I have found them to be very professional in these matters although the time scale could be speeded up.

[quote name='lemmywinks' post='548049' date='Jul 22 2009, 07:47 PM']Like the look of that, is it for someone? Some interesting basses in the background too! If i sell my Warmoth i might put the money to one side for a bit...[/quote] [quote name='Spoombung' post='548254' date='Jul 22 2009, 09:27 PM']Hi Paul - yes that's very similar - and a bit like the new one I'm drawing up at the moment. Any details?[/quote] The guy is an American Luthier by the name of [url="http://www.simmonsguitars.com/"]Dave Simmons[/url] Like most bass luthiers I had not heard of him until I saw a small ad in the back of an old Bass Player magazine. Paul

Hi Kev found this the other day...... [attachment=29412:Echo_2.JPG] could almost be brothers....

As a fellow bass builder I will try to explain the problems with the "Affiliates" section. When we build basses, cabs, electronics etc and offer them for sale we must do so in our own forums. We are not allowed as commercial builders to advertise new basses etc or indeed secondhand items that we may have in the normal "Basses for Sale" or other suitable forums. This means that unless a potential customer already knows of us they are unlikely to look in the affiliates forum and will just browse the "for sale" forums. I can totally understand the problem that the moderators would have if they opened the "for sale" forums up to all commercial sellers / builders. The forums would be inundated with shops, ebay sellers etc etc and the "for sale" forums would become a farce. Basschat is good enough to give us the "Affiliates" forums so we can showcase our wares and raise our profiles but I don't think any of us regard our forums as a main marketplace for selling. Most of my sales are direct through commissions and Ebay and hopefully my website when I finally decide which basses to offer and concentrate on. Whether a commercial "For Sale" forum would be a good idea I do not know, and if it was it would have to be paid for and moderated and who would that suit ? the bigger players who could afford the advertising as with other bass forums. All we can ask is that members occasionally look at the Affiliates Forum , there is a lot of top quality UK made gear there catering for all sectors of the market. Paul

oh bugger.... don't talk to the Mrs whilst editing a thread !!!!!

Here are some 30.25" headless short scales I prepared earlier...middle bass is a full 34" for comparison. I find the shorter scale so much more comfortable and I'm hardly small and have sausage fingers. If Leo Fender had gone for 30" or 32" originally then that would be the norm now. I have a 27" scale project on the go that will be finished today hopefully. Paul

[quote name='dr.funk' post='535056' date='Jul 7 2009, 07:43 PM']Blimey that's a great deal! Especially as LE contains the only bass amp model. Tthe only difference between it and the full version for bass players is therefore really in the effects department but there are other VSTs that are free and can deliver there.[/quote] I have been using it and it is good, one of the best features is it will work as a standalone product so its worth trying if you are not into computer DAW's as you can use your PC / Laptop for practice with headphones. It has a full suite of effects including phasers, flangers, chorus, distortion along with compression and although only 1 bass amp is featured the guitar amps are good for bass and there is a multitude of cabs. In addition to this it has a "player" that you load a backing track into to play along with and you can bring another player up to record yourself. Certainly worth £5.99

pity him who knows the price of everything, but the value of nothing.

Just thought I'd share the fact that in Computer Music is the full version of Guitar Rig LE. You just need to register a Native Instruments account to get the activation code. It works either as a VST plugin or as a stand alone program. Worth the price of the mag definately.

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='532219' date='Jul 4 2009, 02:11 AM']My 2p - may not just be to do with 'space to vibrate'. * Raising the action on a Fender bridge will effectively increase the break angle over the saddle. This definitely has an effect on tone - e.g. if you experiment with changing the height of a gibbo stop tailpiece while leaving the bridge at the same height it makes a pronounced difference. * When you jacked the action up, did you leave the p'ups at the same height as before - thus increasing the distance between p'up and string? I've found that moving p'ups away from the string can add a bit of 'sparkle'.[/quote] Break-over angle is important at both the bridge and nut, the nut especially and even more so with heavy gauge strings as they can have a hump if the angle is too steep and that can cause intonation problems. The second point is another interesting one. The string to pup distance is very important with regard to the damping effect that the pup magnet exerts on the string. An easy way to see just how much an effect this has is to loosen your strings and watch them cling to the pup. If the strings are too close to the pup they will be dampened and not allowed to vibrate freely, this can be an advantage if you are after a percussive sound but not good if you want an open ringing tone. Conversely have the strings too far away and as well as low output the pickup will not detect the minor nuances of the string vibration. Again this has variations depending on magnet strength, distance, string gauge, whether the strings are nylon wound etc etc... Your strings have a big influence especially gauge and also another big one that often gets missed is neck rigidity. With so many variables it is no wonder that 2 so called identical basses can sound very different. Even taking all this into account a lot of the tone with a bass still comes from your fingers....whenever I finish a bass and demo it to the Mrs its no wonder she says "they all sound the same to me when you play them" its in the fingers...

[quote name='steantval' post='532190' date='Jul 4 2009, 12:51 AM']Just finished watching the Stevie Wonder concert from the 02 in 2008 on BBC2. What a joy to watch some seriously good musicians. Cool dude of a bass player, excellent and really laid back. Not to mention the three stunning female backing vocalists.[/quote] Was very good indeed, and I noticed on the credits that Nate Watts was also musical director. My preference was for the short one !

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='531587' date='Jul 3 2009, 12:24 PM']Innaresting... didn't know that![/quote] I think he explains it in this interview which is well worth watching. [url="http://www.behindthenotes.com/index.php/Featured-Video/Features/Bass/Roger-Sadowsky/menu-id-17.html"]Roger Sadowski[/url]

[quote name='fede162162' post='531620' date='Jul 3 2009, 12:59 PM']higher action = better tone, once it was my idea too, but now I've radically changed my mind. It's all about touch. My mind was changed by a great italian jazz performer whom I told the same thing: "when I want to give a strong dynamic to the sound or just being crazy at y gig my bass play worse with a lower action". He told me: Federico, I know you teach martial arts. When you do that, do you teach your pupils to hit strong? or to hit fast and precise in order to get the most effective result? I said, exactly the second one. He said: when you got expert it's kind of automatic to give fists and kicks fast,precise and bloody effective even in the worst situations. Thus you forget how to be brutal. I said: you've got the point chief. I spent days doing just one silly but effective exercise: left hand laid on the fingerboard in rest, muting the strings. Right hand. Put your fingers on a string. Prepare yourself to hit the strings. Focus on being as much fast as possible. You won't have strenght on your fingers because they'll be already laid on the strings. Focus focus focus and then hit! repeat,repeat,repeat. Have you seen Kill Bill when Uma tries to escape from her cuffin? =D well same idea.[/quote] Very truthful ...reminds me of my brother who does Tai Chi and attended a course run by an old Chinese Master. The guy was able to push people over without actually touching them ! my brother said he would never of believed it had he not seen it with his own eyes.... perfect projection of power, controlled and nothing to do with brute strength. Its all in the fingers....

[quote name='Beedster' post='531388' date='Jul 3 2009, 08:59 AM']Isn't it usually about here that one of the BC physicists posts that it actually makes no difference what height a string is set at Anyone found that raising string height affects intonation? I only ask as, technically, if you raise the height, you're also increasing the distance between nut and saddle (or at least you could be depending on how much relief you have in your neck)? Oh god, I'm sounding like a physicist [/quote] Nothing wrong with that Chris , I know a physicist and a jolly nice fellow he is too.... String height makes a big difference as to how hard you can "strike" the string and the harder you can strike it the more amplitude (movement) the string will have and the more you will notice the minor harmonics although that depends on where you are fretting the note and where your pick-ups are positioned also , so as you will appreciate there are a lot of variables. Double basses are the best example of how string height alters the tone. I was playing Bassace's upright the other week and compared to a fretless bass it's action is huge. This is to give it that upright "thud and ring" and Bassace commented that if the action was too low it began to sound like a fretless bass and not an upright ? Action is very personal and depends totally on how you play and what you want a bass to do for [b][u]YOU[/u][/b] One thing to note though is that action at the 12th is meaningless if the bass is set-up wrong with regard to nut height / neck bow / bridge height. A correctly set-up bass in all these respects is essential, its no good changing one thing (ie saddle height) without redress to the nut and neck. And yes , the intonation is affected everytime you alter you action and again the amount is dependant on the other factors of the nut and neck bow. Indeed you may find that what a bass needs is the nut setting correctly and not the neck adjusting... This is a very good website for setting up although he likes to set-up a bass with no neck relief....dead straight just the way I like them. [url="http://fretmd.com/category/tutorials/bass-guitar/"]Fret MD[/url] Sadowski's are interesting in that the neck relief is machined into the fret-board with a 20 thou taper from the 12th fret to the heel. This eliminates the need for relief and is a feature I am trying to incorporate into my own builds. Paul

[quote name='Buzz' post='528760' date='Jun 30 2009, 04:06 PM']I think it's the first prange syndrome. You want to put off that first serious bit of damage as long as possible to something that looks new, once it's already "damaged" it's no longer an issue. That's why I'm afraid of my Aerodyne, it just looks so pretty and tbh, a bit of pita to replace should it get killed.[/quote] I can understand that , but I also feel that constantly worrying about your bass picking up a dinge or scratch can make one over-protective to the point that when you are using it the worry overtakes the enjoyment. The last thing you want when playing is to be uptight.

Bonjour Manu welcome to basschat, I'm sure you will like it here. Don't worry about your English, most here cannot speak or type it correctly anyway. enjoy....Paul

[quote name='Steve_nottm' post='528529' date='Jun 30 2009, 12:20 PM']Anyone else not really mind damaging their basses? I mean normal wear and tear, a few dings etc. I've knocked bits off my main gigging basses and to be honest it doesn't really bother me. It's part and parcel of using them, and actually adds a bit of character. I bought them to play and use, and if they get a bit hurt by thay, well so be it.[/quote] I agree entirely, depends on the sort of person you are, obviously we think alike. I think it is very liberating not to worry about damage to your possessions. The main difference is if you see your basses as glittering prizes or as tools of the trade. It always lifts my heart when I see a pro / band bassist using a beaten up old bass that has had some use ie...Mike Watts , Martyn P Casey, Jimi Goodwin and dare I mention his name "Jaco"..... Not that there is anything wrong with having a nice shiny bass its just a case of horses for courses and personal choice. I apply the same thinking to cars and don't mind shopping trolley dings and scratches , take the arguement to its extreme and you would never get a bass out of its case or your car out of its garage. Basses like cars in the real world are meant to be used and if they are used alot are bound to suffer small accidents. Surely sound and playability is more important than looks ? One area where damage is a great asset is in buying shop soiled and damaged stock that can be had for a lot less than list price. I also find its a good conversation starter as to where, when and how certain scratches and dings appeared. Fender and the like do a roaring trade with "relic" basses so there must be a lot of bassists looking for that well worn look. I must admit that the way some people treat their basses borders on OCD but they are probably the same people that list ebay ads as "from a pet and smoke free home"..... At the recent bass bash I was explaining how my Picobass design had turned out incredibly strong and offered to throw the bass across Nicks lawn to prove the point This was met with gasps and I was stopped, the reason ? that it would damage the lawn more than anything else.... Its different if you loan or use equipment that is anothers property and it should always be returned as you found it. Common courtesy and good manners go a long way these days.

Well !!!! Where to start , firstly a huge thanks to Nick for inviting us down and providing a wonderful venue and to Steve for helping to organise this event. The weather was good, the setting idyllic , the house is amazing and the hospitality was wonderful. We had an amazing array of basses / double bass and some awesome amplification to try out. Too many highlights to list but they included sixstringbassists wonderful Sei which was truely a work of art. Watching Phils technique was an eye opener. Monz's funky Stingray playing through his thunderous Mesa 200 watt combo Bass ace's upright playing ( I take my hat off to you sir ) The puppys and the bar-b-qued chicken dinner Monz's conversion to the Jaco Pastorius fan club............ Good conversation, Nick and his familys hospitality and new friendships. What I did find rather strange was that only half a dozen of us made the effort to attend this so lets hope for a few more if Nick is good enough to invite us down again. Unfortunately I was too engrossed to take many photos but here are a few. The Venue Phil with the Sei Monz doing his Jaco Impersonation Fenders , Sadowsky and Status Monz's Mesa Combo , 200 watts of Valve Goodness Our host getting to grips with his loop pedal

Good to hear some soulful house tracks , that are also good....would you happen to be a MAW fan ? cheers....Paul