Al Krow

👍 Just out of curiosity as I'm going into the front of my amp with my pedal board, I presume: - you're meaning just using the fx loop in and not using the full loop, right? - you could therefore use that same approach with any preamp pedal, but does the same principle apply to any pedal - this is where I am getting a little confused - does a B1-4 with headphone amp capability have greater output than a typical pedal and do you need this additional output in order to drive a power amp?

I've asked around some of my BC mates recently and very few of them are using the amp fx loop these days - "very last century" were a couple of the comments, lol! My understanding is that putting pedals in the amp's fx loop typically puts them in series after the preamp. I don't think it necessarily by-passes the pre-amp as such; you'll need to check the circuit diag. to see what's going on with yours.

Been down for nearly 36 hours according to this: Talkbass.com - Is Talk Bass Down Right Now? (isitdownrightnow.com)

The B1-4 is one of the very best value pedals out there. Like mine so much, I've got two (one on my board and a spare as a headphone amp). In terms of by-passing your amp's baked-in tone, what amp have you got and can you entirely by-pass the preamp on it? If not, will you still have some of your amp's baked-in tone even with the preamp EQ set flat? But in any event, having an Ampeg sim effect in your signal chain should make the "end sound" more Ampeg-y even if you can't entirely eliminate your amp's baked in tone.

I really loved the follow on track - Night Light. OMG Matt Jones' vocals - awesome!

Here's Ed F giving the 2x8 a spin. It's actually the original i.e. not the Aerotech cab - although he does briefly reference the AT in his review. He seems to like the GR kit a lot. (He's also jumped into the TB thread I linked above).

That's a useful steer. A quality 1x12 could potentially get you there for most band needs without a second cab. I personally like to have 300W+ on tap from my rig to give me enough headroom. You'll pick up a used Barefaced Super Compact within your budget and it's exceptionally portable.

Another +1 for a budget multifx to get to grips with what pedals you're likely to want, before forking out ££'s for specific dedicated pedals. Personally I'd go for something recent such as the Zoom B1-4 over the out of production models, as these have the latest chipsets and are still being supported by Zoom with new software updates. Added to that you'll actually be able to pick one up new for less than e.g. a used B3. They also double up as a really useful tuner, home practice drum machine, EQ pedal and headphone amp, so really are amazing value. Here's mine pretending to be a mini rig...

GR Aerotech cabs are new kids on the block. They've taken the power / weight ratio for cabs to another level using carbon fibre & other wood substitute materials. Be useful to get a steer on what budget you have in mind - neither BF or GR are budget ranges.

Cheers @binky_bass - enjoyed those. Very much 'classical' style - noticed you were focussing on the top 6 strings mainly and not so much on the bottom two strings. Just those particular pieces or is that pretty typical? [PS sorry for the thread hijack - normal service about favourite straps will be resumed shortly].

+1 for Omega on the Alpha Omega +1 for RAT sucking out low end like a vampire dirt pedal! Clean blend with an LS2 can help. But otherwise, it's great. I do also like the B7K sim on my Zoom B1-4. But I've bass boosted it to counter the low end suck and the end result is pretty tasty.

Wow!!! And I'm not talking about the bass straps! 😁 Any YT clips of you playing those 8, 9 or 10 string basses?

That's a BIG number vocally to pull off and for the record I think your vocalist is pretty darned good!

Been trying to get my ahead around the Ibby pre-amp centre frequencies and looking at the manual they provide this. The mid centre freq curves follow the stated centre EQ frequencies as suggested. The treble curve seems to peak at around 8.5kHz and reasonable to treat that as the treble centre EQ The bass EQ seems a little harder to fathom, but seems to me to that there is little meaningful boost or cut above/below around 80Hz and that represents a shelf rather than a centre f (if I've got my terminology correct).

So before you string me up, this DOESN'T beat the original. Nothing does! Buuuuuut, I love these guys and hats off to them for daring to try to pull this off with a smile.

Ah ok - fair enough. I see we have just both also discovered the TB thread at the same time! Looks like I'm going need to make a trip to Bass Direct (a UK specialist retailer, in case you're not familiar) who stock AT cabs - hopefully they will have some AT cabs in stock without my needing to place a pre-order - and take my BF BB2 up with me at the same time, so I can A/B them. I've already persuaded a fellow BC'er to come along for the ride

Useful little thread on TB started a short while back. Seems like Ed Friedland is a bit of a fan. GR Bass review | Page 3 | TalkBass.com

Ok this is kinda cheating 'cos it's actually an original in the style of a cover! But this duo has nailed the early Beatles song style down to a T!

This is a pretty good explanatory video. No sound samples. But the thinking behind the cab sounds fantastic.

Agreed on the 4ohm being my preferred option here too. You do realise there are NO decent YT clips of the new Aerotech line up, and certainly none of it being compared to a BF cab. So if you could A/B your two cabs with a decent mic set up and played through exactly the same amp set flat that would be really awesome.

Was the Aguilar also set flat too?

The only fly in the ointment is that 1025s don't seem to come up that often these days and tend to get snapped up pretty quickly (providing they've not been price gouged - I saw one on eBay for £900+ which was very "hopeful"!). And if you find one in vintage white, definitely hold onto it 😉 Having said that, I'd be surprised if you noticed too much difference between the current 435 range and the previous series 1025, so that gives you another very good option. And frankly the more budget 235 owners on here are full of praise for their basses.

Fair points, however I was responding as simply as possible to the specific query raised by a fellow Yammy owner, with an explanation of how it's been measured for easy comparison (which was measured unfretted). I'll leave him to make use of it, or otherwise.

My (approx i.e. within 0.5mm) was measured above the fret, as opposed to above the fretboard.