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Al Krow
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Agree with all the comments about the benefit of HPF's to eliminate low end crud to improve speaker efficiency, particularly in the subsonic range (<20Hz) and equally also below the low B fundamental at 31Hz (or 41Hz for the low E for 4 string basses). My key learning point, with very helpful input from fellow BC'er @ratman, who is both a pro bass player and a capable sound engineer, and who kindly came along to one of our gigs recently, is to think of the business end of the bass frequency range as being up to 200Hz. Our analogue desk has a built in HPF with cut-off kicking in at 100Hz - engaging that for the bass left the sound feeling thin and lacking weight, so I've gone instead for a pedal setting at 50Hz with a 12dB/oct cut but then adding a 3dB boost at 140Hz in the "low mids". (Fwiw I've personally found it unhelpful to think of 120hz+ as "mids" because it's very much in the bass frequency range and mids go so much higher! Maybe time to reclaim this end of the spectrum as "bass", haha!) Bingo, the bass is now 'back' adding that proverbial 'heft' that had been lacking. So we are currently HPF'ing everything on the desk other than the bass and kick drum, and applying a separate HPF at 50Hz to just the bass.
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A very warm July evening on Sat and no air con! But had a really enjoyable wedding gig with our 'dep crew' - first time with our new drummer and he did a great job! Al Krow (@al_krow) • Instagram photos and videos
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But finally a 5 string with an 'actual' reverse PJ available at Euro LX5 prices available over here...yes!! How do the rest of the electronics stack up against the Euro LX series e.g. EMG X vs EMG etc?
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Recommend also checking out the Harley Benton Powerplant series - slimline, plenty of output capacity and really good value! The ISO-2 Pro or even the smaller ISO-5 Pro should be able to handle your needs? I've had the latter powering my little gigging pedal board with no fuss for quite a while now.
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The point about lower latency for the GT1000 was certainly one I wasn't aware of! I'm guessing yet another benefit of greater DSP?
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Agreed on what you say about the B1-4: the slightly muffled and the need to use the Zoom Noise Reduction on pretty much all the patches I've set up, are the things I can and have lived with, but if there's an overall better multifx at a decent price with PC editing (which the B2-4 doesn't have) then that would be ideal. I've personally never bonded with the Helix Stomp and I know quite a few of us have had a mixed experience with that one in terms of holding onto it, but I've seen how quickly/easily guitarists who I work seem with get a good sound from their GT1000 Core, so when one of those pops up used, I'm going to be very tempted to pick one up. I did have high hopes for the MS-60B+ but as I mentioned earlier, it's limitations in terms of lack of PC editing and inability to display name of the patch you are on other than very temporarily have ruled it out for me. Shame - I feel those are both things that Zoom could easily fix and, if they do, I'll have another look at the 60B+ down the line.
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Out of interest, what is it about the MS-60B and B1-4 that's a turn off for you?
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Haha for sure, the B1-4 works well, which is why I have indeed stuck with one or more of them since they came out in 2019 and currently still have two - one of which makes for a neat standalone board when I'm travelling light. But hopefully some of the digital tech we're using have moved on since half a decade ago? 😂
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It's now been confirmed by Zoom that this is not going to be possible, which makes using the 60B+ live less enticing for me. That, plus lack of PC editing capability means that the it's is not sufficiently 'better' over the B1-4 at the things it does well for my purposes to warrant replacing my B1-4, and add in the drum machine, looper and headphone amp capability of the B1-4 for home practice and the older pedal continues to remain remarkably good value and will survive for another day on my board. So, having spent a couple of full days working with the 60B+ I've decided to return mine, and will maybe head back to a higher end multifx in the near future e.g. the Boss GT1000 Core.
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Has anyone figured out how to change the patch display so that the patch name stays displayed and it doesn't default to one of the fx in the chain? That could be very helpful for live use to remind me which exactly which patch I'm on! I've not spotted anything in the manual that obviously allows me to do that.
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If anyone is trying to figure out where the fx on the pedal editor are in relation to those listed in the manual then they seem to have been "inverted". I guess following traditional Japanese script? To explain: there are 11 effects categories listed in the manual The last category in the manual is Bass Amps - but this appears as the left hand column [1] of the fx on the pedal. There are 11 bass amps fx types listed in the manual. If you want to find e.g. the Ampeg SVT which is the 2nd one in the manual, this is the 2nd from last scrolling down on the pedal i.e. 10th one down Filter is the second category but appears as column 10/11 etc.
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So I've managed to get my head around the on-pedal patch editor and created a duplicate pre-amp patch to the one on my B1-4. Not hugely difficult to do and the patch copy function will be very useful for any core fx I want to have on a number of patches. A/B'd the identical patch with the one on my B1-4. Not unexpectedly they sound very similar! There's maybe a pleasing more 'open' / slightly less blanketed feel to the sound quality from the MS-60B+ vs the B1-4, but it's subtle and I'm pretty certain wouldn't be noticed in a band mix. I'll have a listen out for it on other patches that I'm duplicating and also start working through some of the other fx over the coming weeks to see how the two units compare e.g. how the pitch shifters are on both in terms of latency and warble which is often a good test of a multi-fx's capability. One point to be aware of if you are going from the B1-4 to the MS-60B+ is that the fx order is from L --> R i.e. FX1 -> FX2 -> FX3 etc on the B1-4 but from R --> L i.e. FX3 <- FX2 <- FX1 on the 60B+
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Is it just me, or is the on screen menu a lot more intuitive and easy to navigate compared to the MS-60B?! Having 100 rather than 50 patch memories and 6 fx per patch (one more than my B1-4) instead of 4 fx on the 60B is going to be a treat.
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I'd recommend adding in an EQ sim with with added "presence" e.g. at around 1.6KHz and 3.6kHz to give you some added top end zing - I find that's worked well on my B1-4 and I'll be making use of that on the 60B+
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That's all very encouraging to hear Dave. I picked mine up today and hope to spend some time getting to grips with it this week. My key test is going to whether it's less noisy than the B1-4. I have a couple of preamp patches set up for my Spector with it's high output electronics and for which I've got a couple of ZNR (noise reduction) sims included. I'll set the same patch up with no ZNR on both and see how noisy both are.
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Could be my ears ........ but ..... "BRIGHT" PA
Al Krow replied to Pirellithecat's topic in PA set up and use
Just to balance this, we've been very happy with our 912As at both pubs and function gigs, and we alternate the 912As with our 732As, which our singer has. At £500 a piece they've provided a really good sound and were comfortably within our budget (50% less than the 732As) and they've certainly not been too bright or harsh. I'd be happy to recommend them as a workhorse PA set up which provides enough low end without a sub. -
Might have been delivered to the post office today, but I've been rehearsing with my crew this afternoon. You liked the BDDI sim on the MS60B, right? Can't imagine this will sound any worse so should pay for the cost of the pedal on that sim alone!
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Decisions re. new PA for 4 piece band. 10 / 12 / 15 tops +/- Sub
Al Krow replied to warwickhunt's topic in PA set up and use
Did you go for the 115SA model? Be interested if there were other ones you considered and what made you opt for the FBT over them? -
Yeah fair point. The trouble with the Hearmix Pro kit is you're looking at £500+ per band member, which compares to KZ ZAR IEMs at £50 per set, and you'll appreciate why that may be a non starter for many bands, and certainly unlikely to well up any shopping list for most? Obviously it will be a lot cheaper to set up an ambient mic and plug that into the desk, and tailor the ambient sound you want to hear that way? Not going to be in the same league, for sure, but it's then just the cost of a microphone, lead and stand.
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Maybe something like: 3.5mm TRRS 4 Pole to TRS 3 Pole male Female Microphone Jack Converter Adapter | eBay + CR2032 battery combined into an ultra small small housing? Not my skillset at all, but I suspect you or @Woodinblack could rustle something up and make into a bespoke BC product? Just a thought!
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You guys are determined to make me feel better about not getting them in the first place, haha! That's really helpful to know, thanks Jimmy!
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Nah we all do with keen interest Russ! But your suggestion involves yet another bit of kit to set up and sort, as opposed to replacing something we've already got with relatively low cost - those alternative cable mics were just another few quid on top.
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Popular contemporary funk for The Dog and Duck.
Al Krow replied to solo4652's topic in General Discussion
Awww, sorry to hear that! What happened? No going back? -
There's a huge amount of price experience between us on BC. At the end of the day we all buy and sell things for what we think they're worth to us as well as being guided by what others are buying and selling them for. If something seems to be on at a fair price I won't haggle (as was the case with a pedal I bought 5 mins ago!). But I'm fine with folk making me offers whether here or on eBay and I can decide whether to accept the offer or not; and I don't have any issues doing the same. If folk are fortunate not to be a forced seller then they can afford to be a little patient and hold on until getting their asking price or close to it, or simply decide it's worth more to them than what others are willing to part with and hold on to it - there's often a good reason we bought stuff in the first place?! And let's not get started on seller's regret...😅
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Cheers guys, you've put my mind at rest for not spending an extra £5 on getting the "with mic" cables! Just thinking aloud, this could be a really neat feature if any IEM system were to offer it?
