Al Krow

If I managed to shed 6 whole pounds (not half pounds, nor SD quarter pounders) I'd actually be quite happy 😁

Congrats!! (And not helping my GAS at all - haha!) What cab are you pairing your KS and Berg Forte with?

Ah a P bass (well at least the Yammy PJ take on it) can sound pretty darned good in isolation and properly socially distanced 😁

Turning that around - I think you're both saying that the OC5 nails the OC2 classic sound! It then adds octave up and you can get a new OC5 for not much more than a 30 year old OC2. So whilst it might not be worth upgrading for existing OC2 owners, for someone who doesn't have either and wants the classic "OC2 sound" the OC5 seems to be a very attractive option and you no longer have to pay 3Leaf or MXR prices to get that.

Agreed. What we don't need is a bunch of hysterical anti-vaxxers resulting in unnecessary lost lives. Should be made a criminal offence for putting out such harmful dis-information. Absolutely 😁 Three facts worth keeping in mind - for all the talk of avoiding analogies with war-time efforts: 1. We have suffered more civilian deaths this year from Covid than we did in any single year of two world wars; 2. Government borrowing is higher to deal with Covid economic damage than at any time since WW2; 3. The fall in economic output caused by the March lockdown was at a rate not seen in 300 years. FWIW - totally not impressed with the cronyism in relation to PPE purchasing. Needs to be called out, found out and if there is corruption, prosecutions to follow.

No if Ped said he was playing, it must be true. The rest of you are clearly just talking shi*te 😂

Yes I've edited my post to make it clear I was being ironic.

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Which Pharrell was nowhere to be seen in (not!) and thereby escaped equal criticism - lol!

Makes it even more incredible that his reputation has been barely touched then, whereas RT's has been trashed.

I was a bit envious of the decent metering on the compression / limiter patches on the LT and Floor, which could be really helpful when setting them up in terms of how much peak volume reduction is occurring and then applying appropriate make-up gain. Discovered that on the Becos pedals which has an excellent meter. Sounds like the HX Effects is actually the better overall option for you then.

Been having my eye on this for a little while: It looks to be a cool successor to the Boss RC-30 loop station, which was a pedal I enjoyed using for several years and only moved on last year when I was starting to run up against some of its limitations. As it's only been out a couple of months I really wasn't expecting to see it being discounted for BF. But it's on Amazon with a cheeky (but actually tempting!) £14 off...

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The elitist point comes about 'cos there is often an implicit assumption from many BCers that gear use with a band is "proper" use. @dave_bass5mate I'm not suggesting you're guilty of or were intending this - it's just that it is a pretty commonly repeated theme on BC. Frankly IMO it's a tosh viewpoint (along with lots of other implicit prejudice that we see in different guises all the time - just ask the US police force about theirs!). It's entirely up to folk how they use their own gear and where they use it, whether at home or in a band context. Some of my most creative BC buddies are not even in a band right now. Doesn't make the use of their gear any less valid. And tbf I think we are all agreed that in a band context a heck of a lot tonal subtlties and nuances can be lost, whereas you might actually appreciate them more at home. So evaluate them in whatever context makes most sense for you.

Yeah - but IMO it's totally elitist to regard "band use" as being somehow superior to "home use". It's just a different use. There are plenty of bassists who are not in bands and who get a ton of pleasure from using their gear at home.

+1 ^^ Unbiased reviews rock.

Yup one bass, a lead and an amp & cab. Job done. No question that the last decade on Basschat thinking about gear was not very utilitarian was it? Now remind me exactly how many drive pedals you've been through? 😁

Light hearted quips aside - I'm in exactly the same boat. Very happy with my actual amp and cab so don't really need those particular DSP hungry sims (although more is always a "nice to have" to muck about with and try out!) and very appreciative of being able to set the HX Effects up as a series of pedal boards comprising 6 pedals and a stomp switch for each. The one thing that would be really nice would be the recently introduced metering on the Floor / Rack / LT also being available on the Stomp and HX Effects.

Agreed about the Pitchfork - which is a shame as it's otherwise a super versatile little pedal in compact format and not too pricey. Linking you up with @ToneFree who took my Fishman Fission off my hands when I found that I could get something passably close with my Helix HX Effects by parallel routing pitch shifters (and something I had singularly failed to do on my much loved Zoom B1-4 where all I was getting was an unusable mush - partly due to fact Zoom only permits series routing. But hey for the price, I'm not complaining!).

He's still got my old Yamaha BB 425 which I want to buy back off him (as do several others apparently!) 😁

Very interesting point you make about Pharrel, which I hadn't really registered until you mentioned it. But it's much easier to slag off white blokes though, isn't it? (And I say that as someone who isn't one). Fits folks' stereotypes much more comfortably.

Yeah I was referring to Helix generically rather than specifically to the Helix Floor (or Rack). Can't remember whether he had a Stomp or HX Effects previously. Have you felt limited by HX Effect's DSP vs the LT's at any point?

Haha! Or perhaps equally true that you maybe have greater sonic imagination than your average bass player? Like this chap who is not atypical of pedal board users... Or this one? (Who I know has a great deal more creative juices running through his veins than your average chappy!) And there's an equally well trodden case that you don't need any pedals at all!