Al Krow

If we are allowed to include used prices, as I'm guessing that's where many of us source a significant proportion of our kit (particularly where we have such a trustworthy market place on BC!), then a used HX Effects can be bought for £250 to £300 which falls very nicely into that gap! ^^ exactly this. I'm also a big Zoom fan - but can't deny the accuracy of this post! @MattiZ @jimfist do you know if Zoom have upgraded their chipset from the B3N and B1-4 with the G11 and G5N?

Just started using the WL-20s with both active and passive basses and so far so good. No question it's an easier set up than the SH, particularly if you don't have a pedal board with the SH set up on. Early days and home use only so far, given Covid, but first impressions are positive.

Yeah - fair point.

Having got my head around Josh's counterintuitive labelling and a better idea of what it does, I guess I've rapidly gone in the other direction as it's basically his HPF / LPF pedal with a variable mid EQ. Useful? For sure - particularly if you don't have an HPF (I already do in the shape of my Thumpinator and both my multifx's). Interesting? Not particularly. I'll leave you good folk to part with your cash; I'll be keeping my wallet closed for this one 😉

Here's a useful intro note - hope it's not to basic. Pickup types guide.pdf

The missus and her NHS colleagues are getting done tomorrow - they're all really happy about it. Means she'll be able to visit her mum for the first time in months.

What sort of a prick would you have felt like if you had done that? Actually don't bother answering that, 'cos it's obvious - a big one.

TIER 4 !!!!

Yeah fair, life can crap on timing sometimes 😞

So...hold on! You had a 435 that you preferred to your P34 and was in a different league to your TRBX, with a great low B string and weighed around 9 lbs and was in your chosen finish, right? And you did what, exactly, with this wondrous bass?! 😁

Fixed 😁

Well obviously it did - the P34 really struggles with the low D and C in my experience, almost like there was nothing there 😁

Cheers Dave - I almost linked you into my original reply as, at the back of my mind, I thought you'd had a TRBX in times past, but couldn't remember the model! I think you've nailed what @Ricky Rioli was looking for in terms of a comparison between the two. What you're both saying about the two humbuckers on the TRBX seems to completely chime with each other and I suspect there is no way that most of the BB owning crew on this thread would describe the P-J pups on the BB 435 and its sister basses as being in the same bag!

Do you know this guy personally SM? I've always been very impressed by his YT demos - he seems to totally nail the covers he's playing.

Cool - well now that we've got that sorted 😁, it does look like a significantly souped-up version of his HPF / LPF with individual gain knobs rather than a global single "make-up gain" (using compression terminology) knob. And given that it's $180 vs $165 and shipping will be the same and seems to have the same footprint from the pics - the newer model is definitely the more attractive option!

So to summarise for my simpler understanding of these things: we're still getting -12db/octave cut below the HPF threshold and the same above the LPF threshold but overlaid on this is a 0 to 18 gain for either/both and that gain is centred at the HPF and LPF cut-off thresholds?

I don't think most folk would describe a P pup as a humbucker though? They would describe it a as a P pup.

Interesting - must admit I'm still a little confused by his numbering system of -15 to +15 for the para mids vs -3 to +15 for the HPF and LPF then, but I was just going from the pedal markings whereas you and Mr Lukin are a step ahead of me and have delved more deeply into the blurb.

Well yes it is and yes you did 😁

Is amiable = polite / bland / tame? If so, I've not been disappointed with the Yammy BB series 2 (425, 1025) or series 3 pups (735A) at all - in that regard. I love the tone, particularly from my 1025 / 735A.

I guess it really depends what you're after? The key tonal difference is going to be from swapping humbuckers for a P-J set of pups which, for me, is the "USP" of the modern BB range (apart from the NE2, which is a souped-up Spector in disguise not a Yammy BB 😁). The body construction on the 434 will also be a step up from the TRBX and, as you already note it's purely passive, rather than active / passive. Do you feel the TRBX is coming up short and, if so, what is it "missing" for you? On the other hand if you're after a PJ that punches well above its price point, I suspect you're not going to be disappointed with a BB 434!

Seems to be looking to do a different job from typical HPFs which provide a -12dB / octave (or ideally -24dB / octave) cut. This has a much more restricted -3dB cut for the HPF and LPF. Intriguing.

A comment about a BB235 being "off-topic" on a Yamaha BB thread? Now I know you Scandinavian types have a reputation for being super honest (by the rest of the planet-we-all-share standards), but I'm afraid that hardly even registers on the off-topic Richter scale. You're going to have to try a LOT harder...😁

One more suggestion for consideration. This seems to be working just as well as my Ciocks DC5 and OneSpot CS6 and is a fraction of the price and has a tiny footprint:

For the avoidance of doubt, please note that neither of the above two basses are for sale either through the official channels, or otherwise 😁