Al Krow

My BB1025 is a little over 9lbs. I reckon with some ultralites, that could be down to closer to 8lbs? PS that black BB425 of yours is now (via me!) happily in the hands of young master @dave_bass5

Cheers buddy - I did have a listen to the clips on the Mesa website but, for me, it loses a fair bit of "definition" which I guess is to be expected in video recording and online transmission. There is going to be a ton of compression going on in that process and the complex harmonic richness, which for me is the Mesa trademark goodness I'm looking for, is much harder to discern. Let me know if you can hear it coming through?

Cheers @Steve Browning "agedhorse may think that as idiotic" ... you're making me feel a whole bunch better, already, to know I'm in good company 😁

Exactly the colour journey I've been on! But looking at those black BBs together, they do look rather good! I guess in another 11 years we may all be...

Wow! Andy - that's a massive vote of confidence in the quality of the Yammy BBs. I think you've just dealt with any residual Sad GAS I might have had - does that mean I owe you £2k? 😁

Looking forward to your review (I suspect we all are!) on the TT when it arrives. Sounds like you've had both the Walkabout and M Pulse? If so, how would you describe the difference in sound between the two and the impact of the extra valves. Dunno if you've ever also had / tried the Mesa Carbine series - I'm still in love with my M6 and would also be interested which of the other Mesa amps you've tried it's closest to in sound? The only other Mesa amp I've tried is the D800 and afraid it very much left me not wanting more!

[Thread derail warning!] So have we finally cracked why Trace Elliot watts are louder?! 😂 Although I stumbled across this rather interesting piece by Stub Mandrel on the very subject. Just wondering if that is our very own @Stub Mandrel's website?!

Thanks for that detailed response. You say they are the same size, but I was just going by the dimensions on the Thomann website which states that the WD 800 is 10.2 x 30.5 x 28.9 cm and the TT-800 8.8 x 25.8 x 30.5cm, which makes the WD 800's volume a decent chunk bigger, in my books. Have Thomann got their numbers wrong? If not then the WD 800 is 90% larger by volume than my DG amp. It's no big deal - more just an observation and something I would need to bear in mind if / when buying. I was actually wondering (the phrase "I'm guessing") about how the two sounded with the additional tubes in the TT-800, rather than seeking to make a performance comparison - as you've rightly pointed out, I've not tried them (and certainly wasn't going to until Mesa changed their UK distributor and we average bass punters are no longer being charged exorbitant prices).

Thanks - that would tie in completely with what Mark responded to me. (His other strap being a Levy).

Haha! Who says I've come round to being a fan of DG drive pedals? Not sure I've varied too much on that one over many and varied wild claims 😁 Plenty of other folk are, though.

Agree with most of that! Just picking up on your last point, if I may: yup, it's in the no / low gain sound where I think the Mesa is likely to win out. The excellent clean tone of the DG amps is, for me anyway, out done by harmonic richness of my Mesa M6's clean tone with its single tube, even with a little grit introduced by DG drive. I'm kinda hoping that the TT800 will match this, but as I mentioned a few posts above - I'm not sure it will trump my AO900 sufficiently for me to make the jump, although I'm keen to see if I can get to hear one "in the flesh". In terms of drive sounds and widespread appeal - DG have built up a large and loyal following for their drive pedals which, as you know, are featured in their amps. So I'm not sure it's going to be an easy one to call on the popularity stakes! Sounds like you are quite tempted to go for either of the WD or TT?

Steve - well jel that you've started gigging again, and also that you guys have that Led Zepp number in your set! 😊

Thanks agedhorse. Yup there are indeed a lot of front & rear panel features. The way that DG dealt with that was by using sliders for a single 6 band EQ for their two channels (rather than having a separate EQ for each channel), which allowed them to pack in quite a few more features in the same overall size in their Mk2 model as the Mk1 - I think you'll find the DG Mk2s have a broadly comparable set of rear panel features to the two Mesa amps. FWIW the comparable sizes, if we take my DG amp as "1 unit", are as follows: DG AO900 2.9kg. Vol = "1 unit"; Mesa TT800 3.2kg. Vol = +45% compared to DG amp; Mesa WD800 3.2kg. Vol = +90% (!) compared to DG amp - it was really this jump that caught my attention when I saw a reviewer holding one of the WD900s and thought: not heavy, but that's gonna be quite a bulky item to have in a shoulder gig bag. I'm sure for many folk it's not going to be an issue, but just caught me a little by surprise when I spotted it. I also note the TT800 features a 3 AT7 tube preamp vs the 1 AT7 on the WD-800. I'm guessing that gives it a significantly more "tubey" flavour and perhaps one of the reasons for the fact that the guys looking to buy on this thread seem to be making a bee line for that model over the WD800.

@MoJo - they look just great together. And in the best colour too!

Fantastic. Glad to see that my basic EQ approach slap was on the right tracks Not had the privilege of playing a BB3000/A, but I know there are a number who regard it as one of Yammy's finest BBs!

Using the Tron on the B3? It's really good, isn't it, as @Jonathan Bee demo'd a couple of posts back.

Well that's dealt with my lack of pronunciation skills, then.

Ah @pete.young will be disappointed to have missed out on your 3000MA from his comment a few posts back!

Interesting about the Gruv Gear Duo. I couldn’t get comfortable with that at all, either, despite my best efforts.

You'd be the second behind Mr Browning, who has already ordered his! 😉 One thing I hadn't registered was just how BIG the WD-800 and TT-800 are. They're not your typical D class head size by any means.

Cheers for that @Hellzero - it does seem that the strap width is the key! The Richter does look great and 4.3" / 11cm as you mention, but looking like £100 inc P&P Mark from Talking Bass came back to me and he's using a Levy 4.5" (around £75 inc P&P) and several Minotour 4.1" / 10.5 cm (around £45+ inc P&P) which he also recommends highly and are a bit more affordable.

Loved the track and hearing a Yammy BB in the mix - hope you don't mind me re-posting your clip here @doc40hz! Btw is it a BB414 that you're playing - I'm guessing based on the matching headstock? If you're not a fan of slap bass then stop listening a 4.07 - but if, like me, you love hearing it done so well and entirely appropriately on a Level 42 track then listen on!

Great you know your way around 414s so well and congrats on the new bass. Obligatory pics of it once you've got it set up needed, of course! Other than being a 5 string, is the tone of the pups & EQ on your 414 otherwise pretty similar sounding to your 425?

@ead - if you check my YT clip a few posts back, you'll see the strap I was referring to. Looks VERY comfortable. I should probably see if I can get Mark to tell me - as no one from the forum seems to know!

I guess none of us are never not entirely in the market for something or other! Maybe that's the definition of BC?! A used WD-800 is something I'd be keen to try out at some point. I've still not found a better sounding amp than my Mesa M6 - I suspect that the WD 800 gets close. Although until lock down lifts the incentive isn't huge and I end up thinking whether I'll see much, if any, improvement over my lighter DG AO900 which I use for gigging. @fretmeister is about to treat himself to a new amp to celebrate a new cab (of course!). As the protagonist of this thread he should really get a WD 800 and let us know if it's a step up from either his DG M900 or his Markbass MM (inappropriate to use the MB abbreviation for them on a MB thread, right?). That's only right and proper for an OP to dutifully pay the price, no? Although, if we're going down that road I'm still waiting for @Woodinblack to get himself a Zoom B1-4. I should probably sell him my spare one and tbf there's a fair bit of gear that I'd then be obliged to buy 😁