Al Krow

It was just your post implied you had heard the originals band playing live and the guitarist was doing both the bass and guitar parts...but I guess you must have meant a recording, right?

Pigtronix Octavia arrived last week. Aimed at guitarists, but I like it a lot on bass (not least its compact form factor). It has a brighter, crisper fuzz than my Red Ripper which I suspect could cut through the mix very well, and sports a capable LPF for dialling back treble / producing a more vintage tone. It's definitely not an octave-up pedal in the way we normally think of one, though!

Here you go:

Me and you both eh - lol! I don't think it's full midi but you can use some midi controllers to scroll up and down patches via the usb connector, which is better than one direction scrolling through 26 patches using the single stomp.

Great that you have so many strings to your bow! So how did he manage to play bass and guitar at the same time? 😁

Seriously, buddy, I gave it my best shot. But when the evidence is staring you in the face...

Fair enough. No point debating that one any further, is there? 😁

Andy's mum agrees. But I think it's all possibly a bit harsh. But there again, I've never seen your dog.

He also thinks he's better looking than Andy, apparently too...

BGT slot?

Oh my word, small world!! Seems that Yammy BBNE2 ownership was an inescapable destiny then? 😁 I'll PM you to find out which one!

You're too kind. But I trust, following your earlier comment, that you are not merely confusing talent with talent? 😁

Any footage?

Thanks - it was multi-tracked by the same uber talented guitarist with the Jackson 5 hair. I really must get in touch with him to find out he's getting on, pro musician during Covid - ugh!

In which case, definitely please don't spend any time checking out later incarnations of the same line up 😁

Mate, you've gotta stop taking legal action at the drop of a hat... 😁

Yeah - sitting in the pocket; it really is what being the rhythm section is all about, isn't it? This guy came to audition for a function gig where we needed a dep. I really thought he was going to be amazing, but he just couldn't handle "playing with" other band members well at all. The best bedroom guitarist I've not had the pleasure to gig with! Having said that he's probably made more from YT than he would ever with us...

Nice book collection! (And the bass isn't too shabby either!)

Yeah bollox to the first bit, I've heard your set up and frankly the bit I liked most was the bass! Second bit I get: my OP guitarist had turned pro and he was also barely out of college. Almost like rock n roll should be!

The Ugly Andys?

"Yeh that Andy was just great!" Almost impossible for anyone to get upset...😁

Been chatting to a couple of BC mates and it turns out all three of us either still are or previously have been in bands where the guitarist was the better bass player. Any of you been in a similar set up and, if so, how did that work out? In my case, I'd only been playing bass for a couple of years and had just started a 50s/60s rock n roll band. The guitarist was a seriously good musician and with respect to my current and previous crews, the best guitarist I've worked with. In the end he had a major crush on the singer who didn't feel the same way and ended up leaving. I did occasionally find it annoying at rehearsals when he picked up my bass without asking!

Agreed it's good to have choice! And depending on the feature set you want, there does seem to be a nice hierarchy of price and capability evolving in the 'compact' and 'super compact' multi-fx space and you can slot in at the right level for your individual requirements: Compact DG / Neural DSP Fractal FM3 Super Compact Boss GT 1000 Core Helix Stomp Zoom B1-4 Obviously plenty I've missed off that list! Not sure that cost / value was ever linear though i.e. you can pay a fair bit more for a marginal improvement and why a £2,000 bass is never going to be 400% better than a decent £500 bass. The entry point here is a Zoom B1-4 which is around £65 to your door and, having had both, I can say that the Stomp is definitely a big step up but certainly not a 6x better product than the Zoom. On PSU surely it depends on how many other pedals you are wanting to power - but I might be missing a trick here? Some key considerations in getting one of these rather than e.g. the Stomp are going to be whether the following features are of interest and whether folk would be willing to pay another £200, given these differences? 24 rather than 6 blocks (and the associated greater processor power that comes with this capability); a display that's 40% bigger (albeit monochrome rather than colour); access to the full Boss library of effects, but not yet as broad as the imitation of boss and other effects provided by Helix.

Announced a few days back: https://de.juno.co.uk/products/electro-harmonix-mainframe-bit-crusher-effects-pedal/793996-01/

Folk who like to run some of their pedals in parallel, rather than in series, do often use one or more fx loops which is why we have kit such as this being used by our fellow BC'ers (this one has 3 loops): With the Core if you were only needing one loop then you can actually use the other as an aux in - now that is neat! Its more modest power consumption compared to the Helix kit will also come in handy if you want to pair the Core with your other favourite pedals using just a single PSU without needing to invest in something like the Ciocks DC7.