Al Krow

@TRBboy helpful post thanks. Just picking up on your last para - with the BBs the only difference between the Japanese models (eg 2024) and eg the Indonesian (eg 1024) is the finish. Materials and construction are pretty much identical otherwise. Is that not the same for the TRBs?

And worth checking out your B3N too - it can do most modulation stuff (phase, flange, chorus, delay, tremolo) really well! Won't cost a penny extra either 😉

That's a tidy haul and I completely relate to messing about with noises at home - my bands are very happy with their bass player being in or below the mix and not above it, and have gotten used to simple bass - - > amp. You'll find that the B3N does an excellent chorus (as well as a bunch of other stuff) I had one and now have its more compact sibling the B1-4, which has the same available effects. If you have a PC check out the Tonelib editing software for the Zoom pedals. It makes creating and messing about with patches fun and a doddle.

Seems to be a lot of excitement about these basses in this particular finish! Not really come across either and missed my chance to comment. If you're in the same boat then feel free to share your candid views. Should we consider getting one or just get a Squier in a burst finish? Or should the focus be on a Ferrari? Be really interested to get your deep insights on this. But only if you have nothing more pressing 😁

Ordered - will let you know how I get on. Thanks for that really useful input!

So what've you got on your "board" so far and what do you have in your sights? You playing mostly originals or covers?

Yeah that's tricky. How about asking the non singers at rehearsal to wear a mask?

Ah very nice. Well there's only one thing for it then...a BB1025 😁 But more seriously, what have you got your eye on?

Which BB did you have?

£15 posted looks unbeatable value. Although weirdly the compact form factor may go against it. I could easily see that being knocked over with my size 12s!

That's excellent thanks Woody. Sounds like I need a TRS featured tap tempo then, but that a single switch should suffice in that we already have "hold" capability on the SY-1 itself. That Bright Onion is probably the "safe" option then. As a FYI, I think they're a local outfit and I seem to recall that @bassfan had v.good experience with them for a bespoke footswitch for his Mesa M6 amp. ...Ah just seen your subsequent post on the Mosky dual footswitch...looking that up right now!

You're a hero. It's really whether the SY-1 is going to need TRS or not and be normally "closed" polarity for tap tempo bearing in mind I'll need it to work "out of the box"!

Just been trying to get my head around Tap Tempo with the SY-1, following a little discussion on the Filter and Synth Sounds thread, which would be particularly cool for syncing the ARP speed to the drums. Seems that a Boss FS-6 does the trick, but it's a bit bigger / pricier than I was looking to fork out, given the limited use I'll be putting it to: Just wondering whether something like the Mosky Tap Switch is going to cut it? Not entirely clear from the info online whether the Mosky is TRS compatible and / or if TRS is going to be needed for the SY-1? In which case I might need to be looking at something like the Mr Black Tap-Exp pedal, which clearly is TRS. This has the added neat feature of connecting up to an expression pedal, but comes in at more than double of the Mosky once you add in P&P (doesn't seem to be available on Amazon). Bright Onion also do a little pedal which is decent value although the price creeps up if you want it painted. The additional point they make is Boss pedals normally have "closed" polarity and their pedals can be set up accordingly (there's a polarity option at no exta cost. Given that I'm pretty clueless about electronics (amongst a host of other things - lol!), hoping that one of our electronic experts e.g. @Woodinblack can jump in and provide a steer.

What did you think?

Just thinking that a TRS --> TS cable would be the way to go here? Be interested what expression pedals folks are using with their Helix kit and if they are Helix specific kit, whether these are completely fine to use with non Helix pedals (which I would assume / hope they would be)?

I've got rid of my lockdown beard. Will need to regrow to get the whole thing a bit more authentic.

I don't have a kid, unfortunately, but otherwise a good suggestion.

@krispn - seems like using the SY-1 is child's play! Clip posted on the TB SY-1 thread, in organ mode, of one of the guys with his son. Sweet!

As you'll shortly no doubt be finding out: it's pretty darned good in passive mode, but switch over to active and you'll find it has a seriously versatile EQ! 3 band and mid EQ point selector switch.

Agreed with ALL of that! 😁

Cheers Woody, ok I think honours (almost) even here ie no tap tempo in the pedal itself but accessible via an external footswitch which would, however, preclude you using an expression pedal. I've tried it with an expression pedal and found it pretty difficult to match the ARP speed to the beat, so tap tempo maybe the way to go here. Time to make sure that input on the pedal is accessible on my board, again, then! Out of interest, have you yourself or come across anyone else using it in tap tempo mode? If so, what sort of footswitch were you / they using?

Agreed on the Arp - although that could be solved if the pedal had a tap tempo, which the SY-1 doesn't as far as I'm aware @Woodinblack please jump in, if I have that wrong. As for songs, not got that far yet. I think I'll need to see the band's reaction (if and when we're ever allowed to gig again) to my mini board's effects and see if I can sneak them in. They're a conservative bunch and have been very used to bass-->amp with nothing in between and they like the bass to sit in or below the mix rather than above it. I suspect synth bass may be more relevant to originals bands e.g. stuff that @BigRedX does, but I'm just putting them out there as potentially usable sounds, particularly given how well the SY-1 tracks which is going to be key.

Here's a couple of patches from the Boss SY-1, which have been a long time in coming given that Woody and I got our SY-1s a year back! This is in firstly in Bass setting 6 mode and in Arp setting 6 mode. The second track started with a filter added to start with which I kicked off half way through so you can hear the 'clean' synth. Both potentially "usable" synth sounds? SY1 - Bass6.wav SY1 - Arp6.wav

Tip: B1-4 placement at end of your board Took me far too long to realise this, but for me the answer is end of the board! The two key minuses of putting it at the end, for me, are not being able to have the Zoom's octaves early in the signal chain, or being able to feed octave and fuzz from the Zoom into a filter pedal. The three big plusses are a) being able to access the whole pedal board when using it is as a headphone amp b) (perhaps less important) having modulation effects at the end to impact everything that's gone before and c) this was the killer for me: the drum machine, which is great for practice and laying down tracks into a looper, is (quite rightly) in parallel with the Zoom's fx channel and is not impacted by it, but will be affected by any pedals coming after it. So if you want a clean drum from your Zoom, you'll need the B1-4 at the end of your signal chain.

You're planning on selling your Berg California 4 string to fund an Ibby SR Premium, rather than tuning it to BEAD?! You foolish, foolish man! Oh wait...I did EXACTLY the same thing. Ok NOW I wanna say "I told you so". Except I didn't 😁