Al Krow

That timing is pure class. Respect!

Two more days to fill our boots before purgatory kicks in on the 25th. and I can't think of a single thing that is giving me GAS! I'm looking through the FS and genuinely thinking "some nice stuff there, but not sure I would currently trade any of my basses or amps/cabs for what's listed." Which has gotta be a good test, right? Some folk are probably thinking he must have got a virus...

Aha! Well I managed to get hold of a used Schecter Stiletto 8 a while back and it is a lovely thing to have in the herd. Some things you just know are not necessarily going to get much live use, but are a treat to have.

You're welcome :) I'm not sure I was saying that at all however. If anything I was trying to get across the point that they are very very similar! I wouldn't compare it to other BBs. It's a COMPLETELY different animal. It is much closer to the TRB 5PII sound wise from what folk like @AndyTravis who I believe has owned both have said. In particular the BBNE2 doesn't have a P pup is and is purely active, whereas the more modern BB bases are PJ and the majority are purely passive.

Thanks for sharing that. What level is Joe's course aimed at and how much was it to take? I presume you got to keep access to previous weeks material so that you could back over older stuff if you wanted to? Must admit I do like having the whole of Mark's Talking Bass courses available from the outset so that I can go at my own pace, but I can see the benefit of having the discipline of a weekly course to work towards also!

Not sure how many of us have had both. My experience will be close in that I have a "played in" BB 1025 and had a P35. The fact that my 1025 was played in should have gone some way to achieving what the wood treatment does on the 2025. I found the P35 to be marginally sweeter in tone, I suspect largely down to the newer model pups. The strings were in a similar condition but any differences there would also play a significant part. In summary: very similar. So much so I held onto my 1025 as it was the lighter of the two basses, again not by much (0.2kg).

But aren't they Warwicks these days? 😉

Yup I too could start prattling on about Ibanez or softer wood Sandbergs which are all v light. BUUUT technically this is a Yammy thread AND still your true home, dear chap, even if you do go off and get expensive, albeit still lightweight, clones of Sire V7/P7 basses😁

Hahaha...that might explain it 😁

Is it one of the current 3 series Andy or one of the older ones?

You're already 80% of the way there then mate! The audience won't notice the remaining 20%, so you can let Dood take the rest of the week off.

Interesting you mention that - the bass that Dave just returned, a lovely BB435, tipped the scales at 4.1kgs also. But that definitely does seem to be at the lighter end of the current Yammy BBs

Just raid the neighbours' pantry! Apparently there are overflowing larders up and down the country to match the empty shelves being met by our health workers after their long shifts

It is kinda frustrating when the weight is just that bit too much on the P34/5. It was the exact same reason that it all three of owners of the P35 I had moved it on (at just a shade over 10 lbs). All three of us otherwise rated it as a fabulous bass.

You need to get a proper Marcus Miller bass if you're gonna do that. Something like this: And obviously a proper Marcus Miller amp And you're obviously not going to get anywhere without the key piece of TONE-MONSTER kit which is guaranteed to get you 80% of the way there even with a Berg amp and a Status bass...

Thanks fella. What I would like is to hear from folk is which paid courses they have actually taken and thought "this was great" and worth the investment. I'm kinda hoping we can share actual paid-for course experiences with each other (for good or ill) and then folk who want to invest time and coin on paid courses can have a bit of a steer. @burno70's recommendation above is exactly the sort of thing I'd like to hear about!

Great. Which paid ones of his have you done that you would recommend?

Perfect, thanks! Hopefully a few more of us who have purchased on line courses will be along in due course with some positive recommendations.

Apologies but I think you may have missed the key point of the thread 😉 For those of us looking to invest in paid online courses - it would be great to hear which actual courses we have done that we would recommend. The Slap Bass basics course run by Mark from Talking Bass is, in my books, a great example for any one looking to get up to speed on Slap and one that I would be happy to recommend. I'm hoping, between us, we can come up with a few other specific course recommendations.

Any particular paid courses you've taken which stand out?

Cheers. In my case technique. I have a couple of decent musical theory quals under my belt, although given the effluxion of time (isn't that just a great phrase? 😁) my knowledge may well be getting a little rusty now!

Recommend you join a gear abstinence thread that starts in 3 days then 😁 Besides, you're not a million miles from my parish - I'd be more than happy to let you have the Sire P7 on loan for a few weeks. I'm not likely to need it for gigging for the next couple of months!

@PJ-Bassist couple of reviews above. Weight, I'd say 9.5 lbs (4strings) to 10.2 lbs (5strings) from comments made so far. Action and neck - I'm a little spoiled with great necks with my Ibbys and Yammys but I've not noticed anything untoward about the Sire. My action is not as low as some folk like to have theirs (e.g. @dave_bass5). Slightly oddly out of the box Andertons had set it up with raised E,A,D strings like you might see on an acoustic bass. I have since lowered, but didn't manage to get super low without fret buzz, but maybe a combination of slight truss rod adjustment would get me there if I wanted to lower the action further.

With the current bit of extra time on our collective hands, thought it would be good to get our collective recommendations for paid on line bass courses that are worth investing in. I appreciate that there is an absolute ton of free and very good material on-line. Some of the paid courses can, however, take things to the next level whilst still offering amazing value for money and maybe I'm old fashioned but I kinda think it's great to be able to support fellow musos for the their time and effort in creating and pulling together this material when we can (although I appreciate that some of them are doing incredibly well from their online channels!). For me, it also provides a bit more motivation for working through the material given that I have parted with hard earned cash! I have over the last few years become a big fan of Mark at Talking Bass and have really liked his free tutorials. I recently took the plunge with his 'Simple Steps to Slap' course costing $80 (approx £65). It's actually 53 lessons with full lesson material so effectively just over £1 a lesson and should keep me busy for 6 months or so in total (I'm half way through so far). Really happy to recommend this course - it's aimed I would say at a competent amateur with perhaps a couple of years bass playing under their belt rather than for a complete beginner. I've been playing fairly intensively for about 7 years now and it's been both enjoyable and a very useful intro the fun and percussive world of slap. As well as any excellent courses you've done, feel free to share if any paid courses you've taken have been a bit 'meh', that can be just as useful to know! [PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING 😊] What I'm really keen to find out are details of the specific PAID on-line courses you've taken and found really useful rather than generic recommendations of tutors. A little mini review along the lines below, which I can cut and paste, would be great. As I mentioned above I'm aware there is a ton of free very good material on-line, that's not what I'm looking for please. Summary of recommended courses: SBL Technique Accelerator Course - Scott Devine. About £100 and includes 24 video lessons with workbook and tells you what to practice each week (~20 mins/day at least 5 days a week) to remove some bad habits and improve overall technique/facility on the bass. Bass Mastery course - Joe Hubbard. Around £400 per year 48 lessons with video which is usually somewhere between 15 and 25 minutes and a pdf. Need to be able to read music notation as there is no tab. Basic Fundamentals course - Mark at Talking Bass for anyone needing to learning basic music theory. This is one of a series of lessons provided by Mark who has a clear and easy to follow style and comes highly recommended from several of us on this thread. Basic and intermediate course - Jeff Berlin. Aimed at teaching how to read bass clef music notation. $99 gets you access to 24 lessons of various sight reading etudes totalling 102 pages and access to video on Vimeo showing how they should be played properly. The lessons are emailed to you by PDF. Online Academy - Tony Grey subscription fee £24 per month. Well structured course covers both theory and technique (detailed contents - see JohnR's post on page 4). Zoltan's bass lounge - both electric and double bass. Courses (temporarily free) are normally £20 to £70. Tuition is on a 5 string bass and music notation rather than tabs. DiscoverDoubleBass - very affordable Artist Works Jazz Bass - John Patitucci. Three levels - beginner, intermediate, advanced - each with a number of lessons. Subscription e.g. $105 for 3 months gives access to the acoustic course also, plus a 4 lesson basic theory lesson. Videos for each lesson, and PDFs (notation only, no tab) for most lessons, as well as some backing tracks. John is a good teacher, and has relaxed and friendly style. The real bonus is that you can submit several of your own videos, and he'll respond personally, providing feedback on where you should improve. Simple Steps to Slap course - Mark at Talking Bass cost £65. 53 lessons with full lesson material including exercises and accompanying notation / tabs & drum tracks. Basic and Intermediate Slap courses - Stuart Clayton. £8 per course.

Aww shame mate, there will be opportunities aplenty I am sure in the not too distant future when you'll very welcome to pop round.