Al Krow

Complete aside - sorry to hear that Jack, from the video you shared, it has the look and feel of a really good band! What's been the struggle in terms of finding your feet?

Hi Phil - didn't quite follow what you were saying here. My question about 15" vs 12" was really directed at adding a sub to our set up. I guess for us (= me, and I don't have Jack's transportation capability or weight carrying youth!), it's going to be boil down a choice of: (i) option 1: 2 decent 12" tops (maybe RCF 932As?) vs (ii) option 2: single sub plus 2 x 10" tops (maybe even 310As) - my query was whether the RCF 702 AS II Mk3 is going to cut the ice, or whether we really need to be going for the 705 if we were using a sub? And I guess, if we do go "further up the sound chain" it would be: (iii) option 1A: 2 932As plus a single sub - at which point I'm guessing folk would likely say the RCF 702 is not going to add too much and we would need to have something like the 705? So back to the 15" vs 12" for a sub question?

Did you ever consider getting a 12" sub (eg the RCF 702) or is the consensus that you really need to be at 15" when it comes to subs, even with something as decent quality as RCF?

Cheers Jack! The bass is actually very clear through a pair of decent headphones and I can imaging the extra thump you would have been getting live! Nice one!

I think someone elsewhere mentioned that multi-track recording was not possible on the CQ-12T, but it seems that's not a limitation ie possible to record multi-track both straight to a DAW and also to an SD card? Also really like the sound of: "CQ’s Feedback Assistant automatically detects and eliminates problem frequencies using up to 16 filters per output so you can mix with confidence – and forget about feedback." @warwickhunt - have you noticed any reduction in feedback?

Thanks Jack. Any clips of your pop punk band with the RCF set up? 2 x 910A plus a 705ii sub sounds like a very decent alternative to 2 x 932As or 732As! (Although I suspect the mids / vox may well benefit from the larger 3" voice coils on the x32 speakers).

Looking for a recommendation for someone or a store in the Central/N London area who can service and repair PA's?

I agree with you Phil in terms of wanting to getting good value for money. The fact that you would go for the 932As over the 745As I think very much chimes with where I'm landing on upgrading from the 912As, and certainly does help thank you! I think the marginal improvements that the NX wooden cabs will offer is going to be relatively marginal in the scheme of things, and an upgrade to a digital desk would be money much better spent. Tbf we have done a fair number of function gigs these past 18 months, which do pay considerably better than pubs, and I've had feedback from other experienced bass players that we have a pretty basic set up for a function band with no sub (and, personally, I think our lighting could do with a revamp too!) But a digital desk with tailored monitoring for all the band, rather than just two of us being able to tailor our IEM feeds, with the other two just getting the FoH mix would make much more sense in the first instance.

As a general point, if you are using PA speakers without backline or subwoofer, would you ever consider a default set up of one PA speaker on the floor, to give the bass a boost, and the other pole mounted in standard fashion to carry the vox across the room? Or would that be considered a sub optimal set up?

The best prices I can find online currently are: 932A - £790 NX 932A - £1,099 (Then need to add another £50 for the RCF padded covers, which are worth getting). So a pair of NX's are going to add another £600, which is decently chunky and I suspect that the tough plastic casing is going to cope with the usual knocks that all bass gear gets in live use and, paradoxically, where a more rigid structure is likely to cope less well?

Thanks for the earlier two posts Phil. Quoting part of the first above... Having regular access to both 912A and 732A, I agree that comparing the two, the 912A is a (little) better on bass and the 732A noticeably better for mids/vox. I'm therefore hoping that the RCF 932A should deliver the best of both worlds?

I guess the follow on question is how does the set up vary between say the 912A and 932A (or 712A and 732A) eg do they have same tweeter/horn set up? And how/why is the voice coil dimension so important, that it becomes a key RCF reference number?

+1 for RCF 310As^^

My understanding is: First - series (but maybe equates to the features Phil was highlighting?): 3(basic), 7, 9(premium) Second - ?? Third - speaker cone size 0 = 10", 2 = 12", 5 = 15" Actually I'm not 100% sure what the second number specifies? Some sites (eg Bax) mention Tweeter size, others imply 3 = 3" voice coil.

Oh that's good to hear, Phil. Any particular forums you are seeing active bass speakers being listed and sold?

Agreed that the 732As are a step up, certainly for vox (interestingly not so much for bass). Our singer has those for her solo work, plus brings them to half the band gigs. We use my 912As for the remaining band gigs, to share the PA transport load between us. I was actually thinking of getting the RCF 932As rather than the 732As by way of upgrade for mine. I agree a digital desk would be a really good addition too, and as you say @Jack should probably be the priority in order of importance.

Wrong size for the sub woofer I had and now going spare. Collection only from Bow E3.

Having traded my lovely Ibby SR1825 for a Berg NXT cab back in 2021, I've come to realise how much I'm missing it and how fab and relatively untiring having 16.5mm string spacing on a 5 string bass is! But trying to find an SR Premium 5er used has been quite the task! Think I may finally be about to strike lucky, yaay!

Maybe I've been lucky but I've sold almost as much bass gear on eBay as BC, over several years, without any issues. eBay (and fBook market and Gumtree) gives us access to a whole different set of buyers/sellers who are very often not on BC, and sometimes stuff that is not shifting at all on BC will get snapped on eBay. Just looking back at what I've sold and, over the past couple of years, big ticket items (basses, amps and cabs) I've predominantly managed to sell on eBay. Maybe we've got an older, wiser set of bass players on BC who already largely have what they are needing with the bigger ticket items? I do take the point that eBay protects buyers over sellers - I guess the key piece of advice would be to check their feedback scores, which is available on eBay just as it is on BC, and message them to get a feel for whether they are genuine and not and, when possible, with bigger items to see if you can meet them in person to do the sale - which also saves on the worst bit of selling bigger items, the packing and couriering! 😊 Not having to wait for the 80% off fees from eBay, and them now going one better and making all sales 100% off has got to be very welcome?

Well having started this thread some 30 months ago, appears I'm nearing the final couple of laps! Sold the last of my amps and cabs today (a rather nice Fearless F112) - end of an era for me! But a good opportunity to use the cash to upgrade the PA with some better speakers (RCF 912A --> 932A?), a decent digital desk, and maybe a budget subwoofer. Ooops, I think I may have just spent the proceeds a couple of time over 😅

Have to fess that @prowla's issue about the proximity of the right foot switch to the encoder was very much the one concern I had about the more compact design, which does otherwise look great! The worry is that in a live situation it would be easy to angle your foot wrong and snap the encoder switch. I can see why you've gone for that design, though: you've basically taken the exact layout of the existing pedal circuit board (which makes complete sense!) and put it in a smaller housing. When you say similarly designed pedals - can you think of others that have a similar layout with stomp switch right next to a dial switch? Hmmm...may need to rethink moving on my current housing v4, while this one gets a bit more road testing to see if this is actually going to be a real problem or just an imaginary one!

Oh I completely missed that happening. When did it / will it come out? Any differences between the larger and more compact pedals?

Oh that is a very neat compact version of the FI! Is at a @GisserD enclosure? Good luck with the op on Monday!