Al Krow

Excellent review just posted by Si: Conclusion - which makes a very fitting summary to this thread: "This is one of, if not the best pedal format compressor I have ever used. Being a VCA circuit it's not a one trick pony, lends itself particularly well to transparent compression anyway, but coupled with the advanced features here its capable of incredibly transparent levelling to help 'glue' your bass into the mix better. Or fast enough attack speeds and extreme enough ratios and thresholds to make compression a fun in your face effect or super fat core tones completely achievable. If you want a tool to help on the gig, or to get a 'signature' compressed tone or a device in your hands to help you really get an understanding of what compression can do for you then this has to be really high up on your list. It certainly deserves to be there."

Really excellent review Si and my pleasure to make this pedal available to someone who deeply understands the subject of compression and is undoubtedly one of BC's foremost experts on the subject.

Did you consider getting a different nut made up with narrower spacing to provide you with the desired taper?

Me too. What's not to like? 😉

Aha so you avoided 20% VAT and Customs duties on top, which accounts for a big chunk of the difference. Thanks for the Helix tip, I'll give it a spin. I do have a Tech 21 Red Ripper - wonder if it might be better to use that as my starting point. What's happened to the days of getting a decent bass pedal for £100 eh?! 😎

Yeah, great that she's doing her own thing. Have to say my immediate reaction was that she came across as a bit Amy Lee (Evanescence) Lite. I'm probably being unduly harsh though... You, me and the rest of the world mate!

Yup I've exchanged messages with Tim on TB before. Does seem like a good guy / really talented bass player! (See also my earlier July 16th post above with a YT clip of him). I hadn't put 2+2 together about him being the bass player in YYNOT, but all makes good sense!

I'm actually really tempted by the pedal now - if that is indeed what he is using on those tracks, has he confirmed that? What are your thoughts about getting close to that sound on Helix? As you can tell by that question, I'm also balking a little at the £249 price tag!

The TC BG 250 112 or 210 are a lot of kit for the money. Add a Zoom B4(X) and you have a 'pedalboard to go' on top and change from £350. What are you going to spend the remaining £150 on? 😀

Genius always is. Peter can confirm. 😂

Really liked that track including the bass line. Not come across these guys before, but I'll be looking out for them going forward!

...To be replaced the very next day with the last one of these available in Europe (well according the Ibby rep.), following Ibby ceasing production of these earlier this year. I had the good fortune to source from a German online store at an end of line price. Wasn't sure I was going to like the colour, but has turned out to be very lovely 'in the wood'. And whilst I'm not usually drawn to some of the 'sparklier' elements on basses, the abalone fret inlays are a really nice touch. Excited about the new material that this will hopefully help me to access on bass, assisted by it's relatively uniform and half way to a bass VI string 14mm spacing.

Well yet another fine Ibby mess that I have to lay at @Woodinblack's door! Probably the most seamless one in one out I'm ever likely to do - this rather lovely 6 string left on Sunday night to wind it's way up north to a new home and a chance to welcome @Nouse_ to this Ibby fanboy thread as a fully paid up member!

Delighted to welcome Arron aka @Nouse_ to Basschat and to have the privilege of starting a feedback thread for him. Arron has just bought an Ibanez SR1206 off me. Great comms, fast payment and very straightforward transaction from start to finish. He was a pleasure to deal with and I'd be very happy to recommend Arron to my fellow BC'ers. Hope you really enjoy the bass! Bas

Yeah the clue's in the header: 'Peter's parallel patch...' 😉 It's already publicly available on TB to a much wider C4 audience than on here. There's two parts to getting followers and one is building a reputation. Sometimes you have to give away freebie's to get folks' attention / buy in. There's this chap called Scott who seems to get the balance right and generates £2M+ turnover. Not too shabby for a bass player with a dodgy hand.

Wot no pics? Just like it never happened! So you getting rid of that P34 now or what? Face it, it's got all the hallmarks of your next BDDI, you'll regret it the moment it's gone, well at least until you get something to Stomp on 😀

Nice!

Peter's parallel patch for the C4 (or PPP4 for short). Set the routing option to “dual input 1&2” Master output balance at noon. Hard pan Voice 1 to processor 1. Set destination to filter only. Hard pan Voice 2 to processor 2. Set destination to “direct output”. Hard pan Voice 3 to processor 1. Set destination to “direct output” Set Mix 1 destination to “output 1 only”. Set Mix 2 destination to “output 2 only”. Set up a synth sound on voice 1, e.g. “Saw 1” and set up envelope and filter to your liking. Plug your instrument into input 1. Plug output 1 into your amp. Plug output 2 into your external effect in. Plug your external effect out into C4 input 2.

Fair i.e. you need two separate patches one to run Qs parallel loop and a second with clean patch and loop only.

Just checked on TB...and yours still suffers from not being able to access the pedals in the loop when the C4 is bypassed. Appreciate the thinking that went into it, though - definitely not something your average (or even way above average!) Jo bassist could have come up with.

Well if anyone was going to figure this out...😀 Make sure to share it on the TB thread as well as here, as there will be a lot of folk interested in your solution, particularly if it is relatively easy to do.

Good man! PS there are a few C4 owners on TB who seem to have tried to get their heads around this issue and given up... might be worth you checking the most recent posts on the TB C4 thread to see if what you're proposing is a more usable solution than theirs.

Good to know that you can do that without owning a C4. The SY-1 was a little less effort to on this one point. From the website: "But with the send/return loop and dedicated mix controls, it’s also possible to blend one or more pedals in parallel" Job done. Now wouldn't it be great if SA could just tell you with a simple "yes" or "no" whether you can loop in parallel without having to download PC software on a pedal you don't even own (which I won't be doing btw)! But hey, I'm just a simple bass player and someone who currently owns 3 bits of SA gear, so no point pandering to the likes of me, eh...😂

Posted this on TB as there are a few more users over there, which I thought was worth sharing: Parallel loops - does the C4 provide for this? Guys - it's not clear to me from from the C4 manual whether the C4 provides for parallel looping with other pedals? I have the AS and it seems to me that the AS manual is pretty clear on this - it can do a series loop but not a parallel loop. The two inputs / outputs do allow for stereo in / out and can also act as a splitter for a mono input. But the loop function on the AS (from the manual) is a much less useful series loop and when the AS is bypassed, the external effect will be out of the circuit and inaccessible. Just wondering whether the C4 is the same as the AS or provides for additional parallel looping? Response from: rsmith601 Boston, MA, President, Source Audio The AS has internal mixing and switching options that we hide from you and present them as a high level list of routing options. It makes sense in a distortion box. In the C4 you get access to all the input and output routings and when used with the voices, you can create a huge list of routing options for yourself. I would suggest studying the Desktop Editor. It's very flexible and powerful. Well that does sounds good, but actually doesn't leave me any the wiser as someone who doesn't have a C4.

Loving this thread!