Al Krow

Ah, in which case I now totally understand why your 425 is your favourite bass of the lot! 😂

@krispn - nope not my point at all that you can't edit the Stomp on the fly, of course you can! My point was simply that I prefer to edit multifx patches (on Zoom and now Helix) using a decent PC editor. ToneLib transformed my workflow with my Zoom multis. So I will be using HX Edit with my Stomp and I'm happy with that decision. If folk want to get Native on top, please don't let me stand in your way. @Woodinblack my linking of the Native and Helix is based on this article I came across which was very helpful: https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/line-6-helix-native In it they made a comment: "Operationally, Native and HX Edit are very similar, with the obvious technical differences that Helix Native is both editor and processor, and works as a plug-in within your DAW host, while HX Edit is just an editor and functions as a stand-alone piece of software."

Plenty of us think many things are a good idea. Be interesting how many of this "vast" army of bass players you refer to actually get a Stomp + Native, given that there is quite a significant proportion who don't think the less featured HX Edit is worth bothering with, as they prefer to be able to edit patches on the fly. It may well be a useful addition, but I'm certainly not going to get religion about it either way. I thought krispn summed up its value to some bass players well in his earlier post.

Nothing wrong with great gear, but you don't need a fancy bass to be inspired to make great music. You can take away ALL my fancy gear, and leave me with 'just' a £200 used Yamaha BB 425. I will still love playing bass with my band.

Or you could just listen to Carol Kaye playing some of her amazing bass lines for an hour? Won't cost you a penny and in terms of inspiration...

I managed to get up close and personal to a KS BT 5er today. I'm completely blown away by the quality of the workmanship and have to admit to feeling more than a little jaw dropping 'wow', right now!

Found myself at BD today, albeit not for as long as I would have liked, and had a brief chance to try out the Mesa WD-800 through a couple of VK 112s. It's a pretty capable amp - I particularly liked being able to boost the bass whilst engaging the HPF. You could really see / hear / feel the HPF doing it's thing with significant cut when set at 125hz but much more marginal when engaged at 25hz. The combination of amp and cabs was crisp and articulate. I would need to spend a bit more time with it before having something more in depth to report but first impressions were good and I suspect more time would only confirm that view! Interestingly Mark was gobsmacked when I pointed out that these are available at $999 retail in the US. He messaged Westside whilst I was there to find out why he can buy more cheaply from a US distributor than he can from them! Like us, he would have expected these to be priced to allow a £999 retail price in the UK allowing for VAT, Customs and transport.

@JohnDaBass with pleasure. My B1X-4 is actually in my gig bag with my drummer who took a whole bunch of stuff for us following our last gig as I had to stay behind with PA and get an Uber! So it's going to be a few days before I get hold of the pedal again. But in the meantime worth noting that I have not set volume and gain in a particularly scientific manner - just balanced volume and gain so that the overall volume effect is neutral compared to by-pass.

You're welcome to borrow my 1025 Dave (and you're right it's not for sale!). Love my 1025 but the P35, for me anyway, is better still. Make sure to play your P34 through a rig, not just headphones this weekend though!

I have to agree with you that the 425 is one of the punchiest basses around! I also very much agree that the P34 / P35 are really nicely weighted and balanced which makes them a pleasure to 'wear' and play. In terms of tone I'd say that: BB 425 pups = flatter, more kick BB 1025 / P35 pups => more complex overtones, less kick / more 'civilised' than the 425 (but certainly not 'polite' in the sense that the Delanos on my Berg were 'polite'). The 1025 / P35 can both produce a tasty growl when you dig in! Looking forward to getting your thoughts when you've got a set of strings on that you really like and have A/B'd both basses through a quality rig.

@krispn You've exactly nailed it, mate.

Looks like we Stomp owners are going to be splitting into brainers and no-brainers then. Guess that makes me a brainer? 😂

It's kinda interesting to see Boss move away from their iconic "Boss pedal" housing.

Does look good. But at that size could have maybe included an hpf & lpf to provide a 'killer' product.

A huge number of Fender basses for sale on all bass forums, when taken together => must be a really shite brand right? There is not one single Yamaha BB 1025 for sale in the whole of the UK currently** on any bass forum => clearly this must the very best bass available today!! But obviously neither statement is correct. ** if there is, please shout - as there's a queue on the Yammy BB thread for one!

Sold Dave my MS-60B pedal. Very smooth transaction, good comms throughout and a pleasure to deal with. Enjoy the pedal! Bas

That does all make very good sense, for you. But I suspect the number of Stomp owners who will also be getting Native is going to be a relatively small minority? Anyway I've just registered my Stomp as a precaution in case I ever decide on joining another minority

Thanks Luke, I appreciate your words of wisdom and encouragement. 😂

Dimensions: 410mm x 201mm x 62mm Weight: 3KG => Bigger than Stomp; smaller than Helix LT

Yet. 😁

It's out! £665 at Andertons and Gear4Music But already just £581 at Juno...

👍 Gotcha

...oh dear I've just seen that the Mooer GE 300 is out. I'm already distracted

A bigger discount than Future Impact pedals are going for. At the end of the day, it's supply and demand.

Unless, of course, the original owner didn't fork out £79 for Helix Native so it should be still available to the next guy? Let's face it, how many of us have / will get both Stomp plus Native? Seems a bit pointless to me. If you've got a Stomp and the free HX Edit then the two together do everything that Native does.